Search for content in message boards

TEEDS in ENGLAND

TEEDS in ENGLAND

Posted: 31 Jan 2013 11:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Teed
I'm new to this and can't seem to go back further than my great grandfather George Teed, who died when his son, Bernard was 4 in 1932. He was in the household cavalry near London if anyone knows anything at all about any Teeds around that area?!

Re: TEEDS in ENGLAND

Posted: 2 Feb 2013 8:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Christiee_30,

I’m not related to the Teed family, but do you know the first and maiden names of Bernard Teed’s mother?

Also do you know if Bernard’s father, George Teed, had married more than once, and was Bernard’s mother married more than once? If so do you know her first husband’s name?

Additionally, was George Teed’s middle name Thomas, and did he die in Catherham, Surrey?

This information may help to lead to records for the Teed family from earlier in the 20th century as well as the 19th century.

Thank You,

Dave Boylan

Re: TEEDS in ENGLAND

Posted: 2 Feb 2013 8:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Dave,

I know that Bernard's mother was Esther Burns, born 1895 but she too died when he was young.
I believe both Esther and George were married only to each other and
I'm afraid I don't know George Teed's middle name or death place.

Thanks!

Re: TEEDS in ENGLAND

Posted: 3 Feb 2013 5:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Christiee_30,

Thank you for your reply, as it did help to uncover some 20th century indexes that may pertain to your Teed and related ancestors.

Based on the information you provided, I found the marriage index for Robert G. Teed and Esther Burns. It seems that your great grandfather may have gone by the first name of George, hence the G in the marriage index, but records show he was Robert George Teed, and that initially threw me off.

In any case the index for Robert and Esther was found at the FreeBMD website at: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

The index shows the couple’s marriage recorded in the Windsor Registration District for the December quarter of 1925:


Marriage December Quarter 1925

Name: Burns Esther

Spouse's Surname: Teed

Name: Teed Robert G

Spouse's Maiden Name: Burne


District Where Registered: Windsor

Volume of Register: 2c

Page of Register: 1194
____


The above pertains to a civil marriage index. Today, civil records of birth, marriage, and death are held by the General Register Office (GRO) in Southport. You can order the marriage record for Robert G. Teed and Esther Burns from the GRO website at: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

The marriage record can be found in Volume 2c, Page 1194 of the GRO registers.

The GRO website will guide through the ordering process and will also include the fees associated with ordering birth, marriage, and death records.

The marriage record from the GRO will provide important information to continue looking for your Teed ancestors. For instance, it was traditional for marriage records from this time period to record the names of the fathers of the groom and bride. I have never ordered a marriage record from the GRO for the 1930s and am not sure if marriages from this time period also included the name of the mothers of the groom and bride. 19th and early 20th century civil marriage indexes do not traditionally provide the names of the mothers of the groom and bride. If you find out the names of Robert and Esther’s fathers, I can then see if I can find Robert and Esther and their respective families in the 1911 census, and then maybe even locate more information about the Teed and Burns before 1911.

Next I found the birth index for the person I believe to be your grandfather, Bernard Teed. This index, also from the FreeBMD website, gives his full name of Bernard R.G. Teed. His birth was recorded in the Marylebone Registration District for the September quarter of 1928, and can be found in Volume 1a, Page 597 of the GRO registers:


Births September Quarter 1928

Teed Bernard R G

Mother's Maiden Name: Burns

District Where Registered: Marylebone

Volume of Register: 1a

Page of Register: 597
____


The same year that Bernard was born, his parents Robert and Esther can be found in the St. Pancras London, Electoral Registers, living in an address of 43 Princess Road. This information comes from Ancestry.com. I’ve transcribed the electoral roll entry below:


ABBREVIATIONS FOUND IN THE ELECTORAL REGISTERS FOR 1928

R. = Residence Qualification

B.P. = Business premise qualification

O. = Occupation qualification

H.O. = Qualification through husband's occupation

N.M. = Naval or military voter


1928

SOUTH-WEST ST. PANCRAS. CHALK FARM POLLING DIST. Q. WARD 4


43 PRINCESS ROAD


2275 Ho Ho Teed, Esther

2276 R. O. Teed, Robert George

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives.
Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery Department.
____


I didn’t find Robert George Teed in any of the electoral registers following 1928. But I did locate what I believe may his death index at the FreeBMD website. You had stated in your first posting to the Ancestry.com message boards that George Teed died when Bernard was 4 years old in 1932.

The index below shows the death of a Robert Teed recorded in the St George Hanover Square Registration District for the June quarter of 1932. He was 39 when he died, placing his year of birth circa 1893. His death record can be found in Volume 1a, Page 504 of the GRO registers:


Death June Quarter 1932

Teed Robert

Age at death: 39

District Where Registered: St.Geo.H.Sq.

Volume of Register: 1a

Page of Register: 504
____


If you order Robert Teed’s death record from the GRO, see who is listed as the informant to the death, that is, the name of the person who reported the death to the local registrar. The informant may have been Robert’s wife Esther, or another family member.

Based on the death index above, the following may be the birth index for your Robert George Teed. The index shows his birth recorded in the St. Thomas (Devonshire) Registration District for the March quarter of 1893. His birth record can be found in Volume 5b, Page 30 of the GRO registers:


Birth March Quarter 1893

Teed Robert George

District Where Registered: St. Thomas

Volume of Register: 5b

Page of Register: 30
____


Robert’s birth record from the GRO will include such information as the exact date of birth, place of birth, the names of his father and mother, including his mother’s maiden name, as well as his father’s occupation.

Moving back to the 20th century, I found Esther Teed in the electoral registers for the years 1933-1936. In all these registers her address is 78 Delancey Street, London. These were found at Ancestry.com:


ABBREVIATIONS FOUND IN THE ELECTORAL REGISTERS FOR WOMEN 1933 - 1936

Rw = Residence qualification

Bw = Business premises qualification

Ow =Occupation qualification

Dw = Qualification through husband's occupation


1933

SOUTH-WEST ST. PANCRAS. MORNINGTON POLLING DIST. R. WARD 5


78 DELANCEY STREET

2627 Rw Ow Teed, Esther
____


1934

SOUTH-WEST ST. PANCRAS. MORNINGTON POLLING DIST. R. WARD 5


78 DELANCEY STREET

2559 Rw Ow Teed, Esther
____


1935

SOUTH-WEST ST. PANCRAS. MORNINGTON POLLING DIST. R. WARD 5


78 DELANCEY STREET

2594 Rw Ow Teed, Esther
____


1936

SOUTH-WEST ST. PANCRAS. MORNINGTON POLLING DIST. R. WARD 5


78 DELANCEY STREET

2555 Rw Ow Teed, Esther

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives.
Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery Department.
____


The next search involved looking for Esther Teed’s death index at the FreeBMD website, but I didn’t find. It could be the volunteers at FreeBMD have not transcribed her death record to date. But indications are that Esther may have actually married again, as I found the marriage index for an Esther Teed and a Frederick W. F. Brown, at the FreeBMD website, showing their marriage recorded in the Windsor Registration District for the September quarter of 1944. The marriage can be found in Volume 2c, Page 1331 of the GRO registers:


Marriages September Quarter 1944

Name: Brown Frederick W F

Spouse's Maiden Name: Teed

Name: Teed Esther

Spouse's Surname: Brown


District Where Registered: Windsor

Volume of Register: 2c

Page of Register: 1331
____


If you order the marriage record for Frederick and Esther, see if Esther is recorded as “Teed formerly Burns,” as that would be proof that this Esther Teed was Bernard Teed’s mother.

Speaking of Bernard, I also found his marriage index at FreeBMD, showing he married Eileen M. Brown(e). The index shows the marriage recorded in the Maidenhead (Berkshire) Registration District for the December quarter of 1953. Their marriage can be found in Volume 6a, Page 52 of the GRO registers:


Marriage December Quarter 1953

Name: Teed Bernard R G

Spouse's Maiden Name: Brown

Name: Browne Eileen M

Spouse's Surname: Teed


District Where Registered: Maidenhead

Volume of Record: 6a

Page of Record: 52
____


I am wondering if Eileen Brown was related to the Frederick W. F. Brown who married Esther Teed in 1944.

I then found the birth index for a Julia Teed whose mother’s maiden name was Brown. Is this your father’s sister?

The index shows that Julia’s birth was recorded in the Eton (Buckinghamshire) Registration District for the December quarter of 1954. Julia’s birth record can be found in Volume 6a, Page 473 of the GRO registers.


Births December Quarter 1954

Name: Teed Julia

Mother's Maiden Name: Brown

District Where Birth Registered: Eton

Volume of Register: 6a

Page of Register: 473
____


I didn’t find your father’s birth index at the FreeBMD website, but did locate what I believe may be his birth index at Ancestry.com.

The index shows that the birth of Philip R. Teed was recorded in the Eton Registration District for the June quarter of 1962. His birth record can be found in Volume 6a, Page 811 of the GRO registers:


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Child's Name: Philip R Teed
Maiden Name of Child's Mother: Brown
Quarter and year of Registration: June 1962
District Where Birth Registered: Eton
Volume of record: 6a
Page of record: 811
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.
Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office.
____


I also found what the marriage index for your father and mother at Ancestry.com, as well as your own birth index, and birth index for your sister, but have not included them here for privacy reasons.


CONCLUSION

Before ordering any birth, marriage, or death records from the GRO in Southport, I recommend that you access the same indexes that I did from the FreeBMD website, to see if you agree that these records pertain to the Teeds in your direct line.

If you confirm that the marriage index for Robert G. Teed and Esther Burns pertains to your great grandparents, order it from the GRO, as the marriage record will likely include the names of their fathers, and their fathers’ occupations. If you find out the names of their fathers and their father’s occupations, please let me know, and I’ll look for the Teeds and Browns in the 1911 and 1901 census enumerations, as well as census enumeration for the 19th century. From census returns I may be able to locate other birth, marriage and death indexes or records for the Teeds and Browns, that is, if these records have been placed online to date.

Also, if you believe the 1893 birth index for Robert George Teed is your great grandfather, order his birth record from the GRO, as his birth record will provide you with the name of his father as well as the first an maiden names of his mother. With this information I may be able to find out more information about him and his parents.

Best Wishes,

Dave

Re: TEEDS in ENGLAND

Posted: 4 Feb 2013 1:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Dave,

First of all, thanks for taking the time to look into this for me!

I actually found Esther Burns birth certificate, she was born on 22nd November 1895 to Emma woozley and Thomas Burns, who was a 'general labourer' in Stockton on Tees. I also found her death certificate, which showed she died in 1961.
I didn't know she had remarried but I don't believe her new spouse would be related to my grandmother as her maiden name is Browne.

I seem to remember my Grandfather saying his dad was born in Devonshire, so that may well be his birth record.

Julia Teed is my aunt and she also has a sister Beverly.

I will definitely look into the records from the GRO and in the meantime will try and see if I can find anymore information from my grandparents documents!

Thanks again for your help

Re: TEEDS in ENGLAND

Posted: 4 Feb 2013 4:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
You're welcome and good luck with your research.

Dave
per page

Find a board about a specific topic