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ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 5 Jan 2007 4:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TALAMAIVAO
How many Talamaivaos out there really know the signficance of this name?

Would love to hear feedback on what you know.

Good on you Sergio, wanting to know more about your family....hope you get on line soon.

Much Love
Lia xx

Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 17 Apr 2007 11:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, I would love to know more about the name ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVO. My grandfather holds the title name ULUALOFAIGA. I have done a little bit of family research on the name and have information linking my family name to ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO. Be great to hear from you.

soifua..Emma

Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 31 Mar 2009 11:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi there,

Whoz this?

Yeah im related to Ulualofaiga T from Lefaga, shez my grtgrndma lol

And yeah Sergioz in Aussie !!!

Hav a plsnt day :)

Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 13 Jul 2009 6:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
it would be nice if you can identify yourself - so we know who we're talking to re the above name please as well how you're connected to the name.
Sincerely
Teine

Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 20 Oct 2009 9:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Talofa Ulualofaiga Talamaivao:

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Chief Fa'alagiga Nina Tua'au-Lauvao Talamaivao. My husband Andre' and I reside in St. Petersburg, FL.

I would like to share this article about our ancestor by the name of Saisaofai Talamaivao. He was a chief from Lefaga Upolu, who King Malietoa gave the track of land in Tutuila from Leone to Amanave, Fagamalo and Fagalii.

Saisaofai Talamaivao was my great great great grandfather. He had a son named Lauvao. The curent family name that my father Sito'a Tua'au held up until he passed away in 1979. My brother Sito'a Tua'au held the title until he passed away in 2006 in Amanave.

We are the Lefaga clan of Talamaivao that lived in Amanave, American Samoa. Matter of fact, Saisaofai Talamaivao is buried in the mountain in Amanave called: Siulepa. The Lauvo-Tua'au family are the over seers of the grave site. Matter of fact, my husband and I visited our family in Amanave, and tracked up the hill because I wanted to visit my great great great grandfather's grave. He was such a high chief his grave site tells the story of what a man he was.

Here's the article, please stay in touch with me. My e-mail address is: ntuaau@yahoo.com. Let me know what you think about this article, ok?

Story of Saisaofai Talamaivao:
At some time prior to 1852 Talamaivao Saisaofai, a chief of Upolu, began to claim certain lands on the island of Tutuila in the vicinity of the village of Leone. Plaintiff Tony Willis testified that Talamaivao had been given these lands by Malietoa. An earlier Talamaivao family tradition is that Saisaofai's ancestor Ulualofaiga saved the life of a great chief of Upolu called Fonoti. According to this tradition, Fonoti then declared mualofaiga to be a Togiola (life-giver or saviour) and gave him the Tutuila land as a reward.

In 1852 Saisaofai sold Matthew Hunkin a tract of land in Leone. Hunkin paid "One hundred dollars (or its value [in] pork)." Matthew Hunkin, also known as Mataio, settled in Leone at some time during the 19th century and became the progenitor of a prominent family of that village and its environs. The tract he purchased was described in the deed of sale as "Lepule with its 'Tuafanua.'"

The term Tuafanua (or tua fanua) means "back lands." It was a generic term used to describe the unsettled and uncultivated land, if any, behind a tract of settled or cultivated land. Samoan land owners often regard their property rights as extending not only over the land they actually occupy, but also over any unoccupied land extending behind them to the mountains and forward to the ocean reef. The most logical construction of the term "Lepule with its 'Tuafanua'" in a deed of sale would be that the buyer acquired the tract called Lepule, together with whatever rights the seller would have had to cultivate the adjacent bush. As is further discussed below, however, by around 1900 the term "Tuafanua" was being used as a collective term for various tracts of land to the mountain side of the village of Leone.

In 1894 Matthew Hunkin's executors sought confirmation by the Samoan Land Commission in Apia of his claim to "'Lepule' & its 'Tuafanua' adjoining it." They based their claim on the 1852 purchase from Saisaofai.

A person named Iulio, sometimes calling himself Talamaivao Iulio, was the only objector to the Hunkin claim. He objected not to Hunkin's claim to Lepule itself, but only to "its Tuafanua." Iulio's objection was signed and apparently prepared by "Natives' Advocate" E.W. Gurr. The stated reason for the objection was "Fact of sale is disputed."

Julio was a son of Talamaivao Saisaofai. He was also the half-brother of Talamaivao Lei, who was (at least from 1895 until 1910) the holder of the Talamaivao title. Iulio was a catechist from Upolu who spent a good deal of time in Leone. He sometimes claimed to be the true holder of the Talamaivao title, and he sometimes also claimed to be the individual owner of the Talamaivao or Saisaofai lands in Leone. It is clear, however, that in the trial against Hunkin he was acting as agent for Talamaivao Lei. See Exhibits 6 (letter from Iulio to Misitea dated 12 March 1906 re land Le Gaoa, from record of LT 5-1906) and 12 (letter from Julio to Misitea dated 12 March 1906 re land Le Pala); see also Iulio v. Talamaivao, No. 6-1910, 1 A.S.R. 217 (1910).

The Land Commission confirmed Hunkin's claim to Lepule but rejected his claim to the Tuafanua. The Land Commission's decision with regard to the Tuafanua was limited to a rejection of Hunkin's claim. It did not purport to declare Iulio or anyone else to be the owner of the disputed lands. Exhibit 2; see also Iulio v. Talamaivao, supra, 1 A.S.R. at 220 ("[T]his Court is convinced that it [the Land Commission] merely rejected or recommended the rejection of the petition of the foreign claimant for a court grant.")

Alfred Hunkin appealed to the Supreme Court of Samoa, sitting at Apia, from the decision of the Land Commission. The appeal was heard in 1895. Alfred Hunkin was the part-Samoan son of Matthew Hunkin and was one of Matthew's executors. He was also, at all times relevant to the 1895 and 1906 proceedings, the holder of the title Fai' ivae in Leone.

Fai' ivae Alfrod Hunkin claimed on appeal ---contrary to his original claim before the Land Commission ---that "the Tuafanua" which he had purchased from Saisaofai included various lands that did not directly adjoin Le Pule but were in back of the village of Leone. He said there were about a hundred parcels of land included in the Tuafanua of Leone, but that he laid claim to only fifteen. These fifteen parcels, he said, were in addition to three that had "already been confirmed to me." According to his testimony, these three parcels had been awarded to him in a previous proceeding in which he had claimed all 100 pieces of the Tuafanua of Leone, including the nearby village of Amanave. In the 1895 proceeding he specifically disavowed any claim to Amanave.

Seven of the fifteen parcels claimed by Hunkin in the 1895 appeal were in a portion of the Tuafanua called Lepala or le Pala ("the swamp.") The remaining eight parcels were in another portion of the Tuafanua called Lega'oa, "about 1 1/2 miles from Leone." The dimensions of Lega'oa were "about in width from the court house to Blacklock and about the same distance in lengths." Hunkin had originally estimated the size of his entire claim, including at least Lepule, Lepala, and Lega'oa, to be 50 acres. In his testimony he estimated that his entire claim was about 100 acres.

The Supreme Court denied Hunkin's claim to the aforementioned 15 parcels of the Tuafanua. Hunkin v. Iulio, Rehearing of Claim No. 2791, Supreme Court of Samoa, decided September l0th, 1895.

It is difficult to discern the precise grounds for the 1895 opinion, or even what the court thought it was deciding. Hunkin's claim had been to "'Lepule' & its 'Tuafanua' adjoining it". The most obvious ground for the court's rejection of Hunkin's claim to any "Tuafanua" was that by 1895 there was no unsettled back land adjoining Lepule. All adjacent tracts had been sold and occupied by others. See Exhibits 5 and 6. Although Hunkin may well have cultivated other lands behind Leone in an area known as "the Tuafanua of Leone," any rights he may have had to such lands would seem to have been unconnected to his purchase of "Lepule and its Tuafanua." In any case such rights were not put at issue by his claim before the Land Commission to"'Lepule' & its 'Tuafanua' adjoining it." (Exhibit 2, Description of Land, emphasis added.)

The Apia court appears, however, to have addressed matters not raised by the appeal that was before it. It "confirmed by ten years occupation and cultivation undisputed" Hunkin's ownership of Onu'uolupe and Pagaloa (Pugaloa) although he had not claimed them. (Exhibit 6.) Perhaps these were among the three parcels he said had already been confirmed to him, or perhaps they were parts of the larger tracts Hunkin called Lepala and Lega'oa. (The record of Hunkin's testimony, Exhibit 5, is ambiguous: Pugaloa may be the name of one of the fifteen parcels claimed by him, but seems more likely to have been the name of the land immediately to the west of that parcel.)

The evidence establishes that the following tracts, some of which were registered as freehold land prior to 1906, are within plaintiffs' survey: the "Sisters' Land"; Fai'ivae land called Lefega; Le'oso land called Lesolo; Uo land called Leifi; and two tracts called Lepala, out of at least three by that name in the vicinity. The evidence establishes that the following lands are outside the survey: Hunkin's land called Pugaloa; Hunkin's land called Lepule; Lalopua; and the French Roman Catholic Mission. These lists are not exhaustive of the tracts within and without Lega'oa, but only of the lands of whose location plaintiffs submitted sufficient evidence to allow us to make a finding.

Although we assume for the purpose of this motion that the 1895 decision of the Apia court is binding on us, it has no bearing on the outcome of this litigation. The only issue properly before the Court was Alfred Hunkin's appeal of the denial of his father's claim to "Lepule and its 'Tuafanua' adjoining it." The land in dispute in the present case clearly does not adjoin Lepule. Even if we are bound by what the court seemed to think it was deciding ---the denial of Hunkin's expanded claim to an area of 50 to 100 acres in the backland of Leone, part of which he called Le Ga'oa ---the official record of the decision purports only to reject Hunkin's claim and not to confirm that of Julio as against the world. Moreover, even if Julio had won Hunkin's eight portions of the backland called "Le Gaoa" in 1895, we would have no evidence of how much of the 297-acre survey was included in those tracts. Finally, the far more specific ruling of the High Court of American Samoa in 1906, which did define the rights in Lega'oa of the Talamaivao legatees and of the Leone chiefs, would seem to supersede any contrary implication of the earlier Apia decision.

The Court is of the opinion that it can take judicial notice that the Court House and Blacklock's store (later Parkhouse & Brown's store) were both located in downtown Apia. See Cyclopedia of Samoa at 27, 99, 110 (1910). If Hunkin's estimate was correct, the land called "Lega'oa" involved in the 1895 case therefore constituted only a few acres. Such a finding, however, is unnecessary to our decision; it is sufficient that the evidence establishes Hunkin's entire claim to have comprised only 50 to 100 acres. See also Conclusion of Law No.1, infra.

Gurr also wrote a letter in 1895 to the "Chiefs and Councillors of Amanave," telling them that Iulio had "put before the judge an objection to protect your town & cultivations & also land." He informed the chiefs that "the Case is now over & the town Amanave & its lands are saved. " The only hitch, according to Gurr, was that "you [the chiefs of Amanave] are to pay taxation for the investigation of the land, the sum of one hundred dollars, then your land will be saved." Otherwise the Chief Judge and the Government would "be at a disposal of selling your land to whom they choose." Gurr suggested that each resident of Amanave contribute two or three dollars. The letter was signed "Misitea, Councillor for Samoa" and was dated September 16, 1895, six days after the Apia trial. The chiefs later claimed that they had paid the $100 to Iulio. (Gurr's letter to the chiefs and the chiefs' claim to have paid the money to Iulio are part of the record of Julio v. Talamaivao, supra.) The official report of the Apia case, contrary to Gurr's letter, assesses $100 not against the chiefs of Amanave but against Iulio himself. Moreover, the assessment appears on its face to have to do with "all the rest of the Tuafanua" ---that is, such portions of "the Tuafanua of Lepule" as were not confirmed to Hunkin ---rather than with Amanave in particular .Assuming that "Councillor for Samoa" was something other than a self-description, and whatever the official duties of that post might have been, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that Gurr was operating as an advocate for Iulio.
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Fatumalama (b. 1819), of Leone, Tutuila. This family from American Samoa has been recorded on an ancesral file (by Tuiluaai Hunkin Vanisi) as well as on the IGI with conflicting dates, names & places. So because of this I've chosen to be very careful about adding further information.

Ann may have originally been called 'Mata'u' & Mata'u originally called 'Mele'. (Although the IGI records the children as above). Mata' u is recorded to have marr. Saini Taua (isafune).

One major confliction is between his 3 daughters Ann, Mata'u & Saini (Jane) as the IGI records for the first two the same husband (although different dates & the name spelt a little different) which both marriages lead to a dau. Saini (Jane) who marries Uaine (Wayne) Tuitele. And to make things even more complicated there sister Saini (Jane) is recorded to have marr. in 1900 at Leone (again, taken from the IGI) a Uaine (Wayne) Tuitele ? A descendant of this line Saini (Jane) Tuitele insists it was Saini (Jane) dau. of Ann Hunkin who indeed marr. Uaine (Wayne) Tuitele but others (including her cousins) disagree. All these discrepancies came about because no official records were kept in American Samoa so 'word of mouth' passed down through the generations is all we have to go on.

Matthew's Samoan name was 'Mataio' & his middle name may have been 'Alfred'.

Another child (IGI) called Jane Matauitafa Hunkin, 1856, Leone, Tutuila, American Samoa is recorded. According to Tuiluaai Hunkin Vanisi marr. a man called Mata' Ituli circa 1877 & had the following children: Laipisi (1878), Elipisi (1880), Foga'A (1882) & Maioa (1884). Although Saini (Jane) Tuitele states that it was the above Ann Hunkin who marr. this man (Mata' Ituli) being his first name. Both Jane & Jane Matauitafa are clearly the same person although their birth dates are slightly different & also both have different children.
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Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 7 Jan 2010 9:15PM GMT
Classification: Query

Talofa lava i lau Afioga Fa'alagiga ma le aiga Ali'i.

I am responding to your article on Ancestor.com, thru message board.

But allow me to introduce myself. I am Talking Chief Lei'ataua from the village of Amanave, Son of High Chief Aveao Fa'ausu Fonoti and Teleofa Galea'i Leota Fonoti.

There are some differents issuses in your article that i am disagree with, but i beleive the more we exchange our information thru e-mail or fax, will help us understand our intentions.

But i just want to give you my small version of my gafa about Ulualofaiga Talamaivao for your understanding.

Ulualofaiga Talamaivao Falao Saisaofai Laumoli is my great x3 grandfather. We are the UT Falao S. Laumoli clan from the village of Amanave, Fagaloa Salimu/Musumusu. My great grandfather Fa'ausu Fonoti is the grandson of Ulualofaiga Talamaivao Falao. S. Laumoli thru marriage with Sefataulemana of Salesatele which is issues, Ausai (my great x2 grandfather and her Sister Saisului.

But you can e-mail me at fonoti84@yahoo.com

Soifua ma I'a Manuia

Alofa'aga,

Tofa Lei'ataua Iakimo k. Fonoti


Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 29 Jun 2010 2:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Very interesting.
I have read the above replies to this thread, and the last two posts have been most interesting. Sergio the above people replying are relations to us. The closest must be Teine Mamafa, her dad was the MC and Aunty Helens wedding.

I wanted to cover two points, One refers to the land owned by the Title of Talamaivao. The land which is Amanave was "gifted" to Talamaivao by the Fonoti. Talamaivao was a great warrior who fought Fonoti's battles. In exchange he was given this land. It was not from Malietoa and is not an old wives tale.

Secondly I would like to acknowledge Leiataua, your description of your lineage was most interesting as I have never known a Fa'ausu Fonoti. However my grandfather knows exactly who he is.

My grandfather comes from the same line, however this is a slight diference. Ausai had a son named Fa'ausu but that lineage never stayed or grew up in Fagaloa, so only few know that lineage.
Ausai then had another son with a Palagi lady, A Miss Brown, his name was Tavita and he held the Talamaivao title. After him his younger son Vaela'a held the title, which would have gone to Fa'avesi if he did become a Church Minister in Lalomanu. Fa'avesi had a son named Apineru, (actually he had a daughter named Saisului and Ausai funnily enough) and Leilua Faavesi Apineru Talaimaivao is my mothers father.
Everytime i spend time with my papa, he tells me the genealogy and the stories of where this title comes from and how it was given.
I hope this gives a better insight into "our" extended family.

Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 9:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Talofa and malo lava le soifua maua ia te oe le uso. Is obvious that we are blooded related, you must be High Chief Fonoti Seti Talamaivao cousin. He was a lawyer at New Zealand. Hope all is well with you and ur family.

Anyways, e-mail me at fonoti84@yahoo.com,

Your Aloha,

HTC Lei'ataua Iakimo k. Fonoti

Re: ULUALOFAIGA TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 21 Apr 2011 9:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
just been surfing... interesting posts and replies.
My Great Grandmother "Siila" was the eldest child of the "Ulualofaiga Talamaivao Emelio" offspring... from Fagaloa.
Just like to wish you all a Happy Easter.. God bless :)
cheers, Paul
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