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TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 9 Jun 2004 4:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 May 2005 1:48AM GMT
Surnames: Amatafafai, Mataituli, Talamaivao
Amatafafai Talamaivao b.1844 Amaile, Upolu, Samoa; daughter of Uga Talamaivao and Eseta Mataituli; d.1892 Amanave, Tutuila, Samoa. Interested in corresponding with others researching same line(s).

Re: TALAMAIVAO

Jackie Taua Gibbons (View posts)
Posted: 11 Mar 2006 11:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Manaia,
I am VERY intrigued by this part of our family history. My father held our family's HC title, Mata'ituli, for almost 30 years before he passed away in 2002.

Please email me if you'd like, family history plays a very important part in our culture---I love it.

Hope to hear from you soon relative!
Jackie

Re: TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 14 Mar 2006 8:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: KOLI,LUTALI,MATAITULI,MISA,PULE,SIUFAGA,TALAMAIVAO,TAUA
Talofa/Hello Jackie:

Thank you! for reminding me why I started on this family search two years ago - I totally forgot my own roots!

Who are your TALAMAIVAOs? And from which Island(s)? Do you know year(s)?
village(s)? district(s)? history?

I believe your father, whom passed away recently, was the son of Manesa MATAITULI TAUA LUTALI and Fetaomi TULIA MISA. My ancestors are of Manesa's first marriage with Fiapai SIUFAGA PULE KOLI.

We are perplexed about the name LUTALI - is it a surname within Fetaomi's "aiga"/extended family?

Have a great day!

Manuia/Regards,
Manaia
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Re: TALAMAIVAO

Jackie (View posts)
Posted: 15 Mar 2006 8:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Talofa Manaia!
Well, I am so sorry to disappoint but I don't have any details on my Talamaivao ancestors nor do I know years. If we look at the full name of our family name it makes me think it would be somewhere in Safune:
Mata'ituliseali'i Tauaosafune.

You are correct about my grandfather & grandmother

I recently began hearing this name come up in recounts of our family history and when I saw your posts I was so excited to see so many names from our family / village (Mataituli, Taua, Amatafafai, Lutali, Pule,etc...) that I was hoping you would be able to "fill in the blanks" for me---or at least a couple.

I am sure that Lutali is not from Fetaomi's side of my family. It is definitely from my grandfather's line. Somewhere in family history the daughter of Lutali married into the Mataituli Taua family.

So, which line of Manesa & Fiapa'i's children do you descend from? Although my dad was the youngest of this clan (because my uncle Semisi died as a child)---which make us look more like grandchildren of his sisters/brothers----we pretty much know or had known all of them except my uncle Tai'u. This account also includes my dad's stepbrothers/sister from Fiapa'i's first marriage.

Well, it was such a good surprise to hear from you. Please let me know if that helps with anything.

Thanks for replying so quickly.
Chat with you again soon.
Jackie

Re: TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 16 Mar 2006 10:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GURR, TAUA, TALAMAIVAO
Hi! Jackie:

I will respond privately - <G>.

I really didn't expect you to know anything regarding the TALAMAIVAOs. You're correct about your statement "which make us look more like grandchildren of his sisters/brothers" - so true. And you are referring to your father's half-brothers and half-sisters, I believe.

Were you able to attend any of Fua's services? Did you ever meet Losa Taua Gurr? Losa took care of my grandmom there at the "plantation" on Tutuila.

Manuia/Regards,
Manaia
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Re: TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 5 Oct 2007 10:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mataituli, Taua
hey Jackie n Manaia,

it's pretty cool.. but, we kinda don't wanna discuss family 'connections' of ANY kind on the WWW ey? too many "fe'e" looking for families or villages to 'cling' unto.. but have no connection.. remember that saying about the ever-so-popular 'asigi'?.. or was it a horse.. anyways.. it's a great topic and now that we've established our relations.. let's do this the 'old way.. on the DL.okay?

alofa

Re: TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 19 Nov 2009 9:35PM GMT
Classification: Query

Talofa and Aloha Jackie,

Before i go on, i want to introduce myself. I am Iakimo K. Fonoti, son of High Chief Aveao and Teleofa Galeai Leota Fonoti from the lovely paradise village of Amanave. Which is devastated by the tsunami the past two months.

The reason why i came up here to reply because i know that we are blooded family in Fagaloa Salimu/Musumusu. My great grand father Fa'ausu Fonoti is buried next to the ulu tree, which is right next to your guyz house at Amanave. But i want to share you why our great grand father buried thier at our extended family land and property.

My great grand father Fa'ausu Fonoti is the son of Ausai Talamaivao, from Fagaloa Salimu/Musumusu. His dad was Ulualofaiga Talamaivao Falao Saisaofai Laumoli. He marry to Sefataulemana of Salesatele and born tow children. 1. Ausai(tama), and a girl named Saisului.

Ausai marry to FuaatinoLesaLei'ataua, daughter of HC Lei'ataua of Manono, and they born two children, Fa'ausu Fonoti and her sister Mina Fonoti. Fa'ausu Fonoti( my great grand father), was travel to Tutuila Islnad with is first cousin Ulualofaiga Talamaivao Tavita Fonoti to manage his family land and property in the village of Amanave. My great grand father Fa'ausu Fonoti marry to Fa'afei'i daughter of High Chief Aveao Na'ea and born two children, Alalika Fonoti ( my grand father), and her sister Laelae Fonoti. Alalika Fonoti marry to Seneuefa and born five children which is include my dad High Chief Aveao Fa'ausu Fonoti. HC Aveao F. Fonoti marry to Teleofa Galeai Leota of Leone and born myslef, Taking Chief Lei'ataua Iakimo K. Fonoti.

Our family agree this summer to me to take over Lei'ataua title in our family. Taking chief Lei'ataua is same as Tutuvanu, Puni and Niuia, they are call the Sapule.

Futhermore, I have many things to discuss with you but i don't have time, cuz i'mbusy with to pay my student loans.

Anyways i want you to give me your version of the Talamaivao family, because i have my family genealogy in my possession, which is my family in Fagaloa handed out to us the Ulualofaiga Talamaivao Falao Saisaofai Laumoli suli.

Maybe we can share information and exchange issues regardless our family problem back Home. Your cousin Taua Niu Taifane is blocking my dad land called Liua, which is were heading to court to that.

Anyways i'm looking forward to hear from you soon.

Much alofa'aga,

Taking Chief Lei'ataua Iakimo k. Fonoti



Re: TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 4 Jan 2010 12:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
i am a true amanave. every blood and bone connecting me to amanave i can assure you lies deep in the land together with the spirits of my ancestors.

mr. iakimo, your grandfather buried next to the ulu tree has no significance in the mataituli family legacy nor its genealogy. believe me when i say that. samoans are rooted in a sense of respect and appreciation which constitutes for the burial of your great grandfather on the mataituli property. o le ala i le pule o le tautua. tautua has a reason as to why your great grandfather was buried there.

the aveao title held by your father is an important title of the village given to your ancestors by the head honchos of amanave; however, it is also a title that you should understand comes with great understanding. you could lose it in an instant if you do not know your stand. so let me brief you on that, the title "AVE AO" was created by the high chiefs of amanave when your ancestor was found in the mid hours of the night near the Utusiva. He was heard weaping from the ocean while the village was at rest. The people of the village went to look and found a barenaked man weaping. the high chieves decided to wait until morning to bring him to land and to investigate if he was truly human or a bad spirit. this is how the title "AVE AO" was created. ave i uta i le ao.

all other translations as i've heard are not in accordance with what i was being told by my grandparents and great grandparents. but off course you are way behind me in years so that differentiates on our level of understanding.

Taua Niualama Taifane is my niece. She is doing a marvelous job bringing the village and the family together. Do your research and you'll see.

PS. congratulations for being blessed with the Leiataua title. Now serve with intergrity and steer clear from the wrong information that you're being fed from those closest to you. ia manuia.

Re: TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 5:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am responding to your message on Ancestor.com thru message board, regarding my great grandfather burial at Mataituli property, and our family Aveao named originate from.

I am disagree with your intention and understanding of our family geneology. I beleive you are way older than me, but i'm a mature person and more understand about my tradition, culture and my family geneology.

I beleive you are the one that mis-inform by your love ones that leads you to wrong information.

Allow me, to trace you back in Fagaloa, Salimu and Musumusu or the Va'a of Fonoti( Boats of Fonoti).

MAtaituli and Amafafai are my great grandfather family
from differents marriage. My great grandfather Fa'ausu Fonoti was burial at his grandfather property, but not on traditional services or tautua i le Aiga Sa Mataituli. My great grandfather is the grandson of late Ulualofaiga Talamaivao Falao Saisaofai. Laumoli, which is issues his father Ausai and her sister Saisului. As you Know UT Falao S.L, was the sixth title holder to Ulualofaiga Talamaivao from UT Leo'o. My great grandfather Fa'ausu Fonoti and UT Tavita Fonoti are first cousin by UT Falao second marriage. UT Tavita Fonoti fourth marriage to Toe Pulepule of Solosolo, which is issues your clans UT Vaela'a and her sister Potoa'e and others.

My great grandfather Fa'ausu Fonoti was send to Amanave, Tutuila for purpose to raise there and help his grnadfather family, while her sister Mina was the taupou for his grandfather Filauia at Fagaloa.

secondly, you are way wrong about our family Aveao named originated from, and also your wrong about my understand, about lose it in instant if i don't know my stand. Excuse me....E papau lava le tanoa ia te oe li uso. As u know, that MAtaituli title is originate from Mataitu i le faletua o Talamaivao, maua le igoa Mataituli, tama sa mataitu le faletua o Talamaivao. You should know what is your family named came from and know what is your stand. Because i tell you bradha, is our turn for both Ta'uso title in the village of Amanave. If you know your roots and geneology, you should understand the connections from a High Chief in Fagaloa Ulualofaiga Talamaivo, thru Paramount Chief Fonoti gave him the village of Amanave and send his family to govern and collect rent from Amanave residents. I am more happy to give you this infromation, which is in my possesion from the court.

Thirdly, i admire what Taua have done for the village. Which is good, because is her time to make taeao in the village, and plus Taua is like a sister to me. But right after she take the family title and petition my dad land, everything was change.

Anyways, i suggest you to futher your research back and fourth to understand were you came from and what is your connection in Talamaivao, Mataituli and etc.... and Note not to listen to your luv one that feds you to wrong information and lead to wrong directions Mr. Onosaileloto.

I'm looking forward to hear you from you Mr. Onosaileloto.

Feel free to e-mail me at fonoti84@yahoo.com or on Ancestry.com.

I'a manuia, Soifua




Re: TALAMAIVAO

Posted: 21 Jan 2010 2:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Boy, you have a lot to learn. Therefore, I suggest you start by finding out who your real parents are. I know Sefo is the youngest of Fa'ausu and Teleofa's children, all whom grew up in Leone and only made way to Amanave in their early teens.

Trust me, you have nothing but made-up story of what you wish you could be and what your family wishes to be the truth. No further questions, your honor!!
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