in response to reneedc concerning spada of vena . i probably have info that will help you with your search. joseph was my grandfather, my father was robert sr, who passed last year(95) he was the last surviving of the 18 kids of joseph and maryann. i am away for 2 weeks but i would be glad to send you the family research started by one of uncle johnny's sons who went to the courthose in italy several years ago.