julia delisle was my gg grandmother she married john soady he was a blacksmith in torquay they had a son walter delisle soady, that is why I asked you about frederick he is news to me so was he there son too and if so what happend to him. I dont know how john died or what happend to walter after 1871, julia married tom shepherdson and had three children then she married john hartle twice and had two children in mellor, julia was quite a girl and it has taken me a few years to piece her life together and yet she can still surprise me.