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Is Sophie Shenaille also Sophie Snide? Is Emma Jodoin really Edna?

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Is Sophie Shenaille also Sophie Snide? Is Emma Jodoin really Edna?

Posted: 9 Aug 2011 3:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Snide Jodoin Shenaille Lafontaine Raymond
There is a birth record for Marie Edna Jodoin, born May 13, 1894 and bap​tized May 19, 1894. Pa​rents were Francois Jo​doin and Sophia Shenai​lle. Godparents were J​ean Baptiste Shenaille​, the grandfath​er, and his wife, Esth​er Raymond.​

Esther Raymond, originally of Canada and then removed to Mooers, NY was married to Jean Snide. This couple seems like they could be the same couple who were the Godparents, as Shenaille could very well be just one more variation of Snide, Snyde, Chenard, Schneider, Shenaidere, etc.

In the 1860 federal census, a Sophia is listed in their household at age 4, thus born 1855/1856. In the 1870 and 1880 censuses for Mooers, that name doesn't appear, but the name Cecelia does for that age. Cecelia doesn't appear on the 1860 census, so it seems that Sophia may have been noted in 1860 in error.

The record refers to Jean Baptiste Shenaille as the grandfather, but refers to Esther Raymond as his wife, not the grandmother. This doesn't preclude her from being the grandmother, but the lack of reference to her being the grandmother would fit if she was not the grandmother (in other words, if Emma was his granddaughter by a woman who was not his wife's daughter.)

My great grandmother Desanges/Susie Daigneault's mother was widowed when Desanges and her older sister Josephine were very young. She then had another daughter Sophie Snide. "My" Sophie, of Mooers, NY, married a Francois Xavier Jodoin of St-Chrysostome, Quebec about 1892 and they had a daughter Edna on May 13, 1894 in St-Chrysostome. This information so closely matches the record for Emma Jodoin, that I think this record is for her. If this is for her, then Esther Raymond could not have been her grandmother because Esther and John were married 1847 and they had children through 1868. Esther did not have Josephine and Desanges, who were born about 1860 and 1864, so I wonder if Esther's husband John had a child with my Sophie Snide's mother (there is Sophie Deno with two young girls and no male head living right next door to John and Esther in the 1860 census for Mooers - - I wonder if she was my great great grandmother).

If Sophie, the mother of the child in this record, was the daughter of both Jean and Esther, then this Sophie also married a Francois Jodoin also from St Chrysostome and also has a daughter in the same month, year and place as my Sophie did - - seems improbable.

If anyone is a descendent of John Snide and Esther Raymond, can you clarify if their Sophie in the 1860 census is the same as Cecelia in the 1870 and 1880 censuses? Also, might you have ever hear if John left his wife for another woman or had a child out of wedlock name Sophie that might explain things.

A Sophie Snide is living with John and Esther Snide in the Feb. 16, 1892 New York State census for Mooers, which Per NY State Census (John Snide 67 and his wife Esther 67, their sons Fred 36, Noah 26, Noah's wife Emeline 25, their baby Amelia 1, Sophia 24, Delia 6 and Laura 13.) If this Sophie is one and the same with my Sophie, that would make sense in that she was married at St. Anne's church in Mooers Forks, NY on Feb. 29, 1892 - - about two weeks after this census, and before, I speculate (due to circumstantial evidence) after her mother died, which may have been in 1891. By the way, I think there is a possibility that my great great grandmother was a Lafontaine. She is who I am trying to nail down, thus the interest in my great grandmother Desanges' half-sister Sophie Snide.

-Pamela Wright (pwright@smith.edu)

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