My Great Grandparents were William "Sweet William" Allen Shrum Martha Susan (Brawner or/Broner or/Bronner) Shrum depending on who you ask ! Then they had Walter Jeremiah "Jerry" Shrum who was married to Rose or/Rose Ann or/Rosey or/Roseann (Star[r]) Shrum who had Edgar Garfield Shrum who was my Dad. There sure seems to be similarities. ? Wanna exchange info. ? Neal Shrum block@thurston.com /or see my; "My Family.com" Shrum family site or, my Starr family site.