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Re: John Shirer/Johannes Schurer

tshirer1 — 2015-05-26 17:30:07Z

Charles Shirer, I think my dad is your cousin (Lewis II). He's not on here, but i could connect you if you're interested.

Re: John Shirer/Johannes Schurer

sec1cms21 — 2015-04-07 05:18:59Z

Tommy,
It's been a long time. If you still check this thread let's try and meet up. Yes, this your cousin. My dad was your uncle Harold.

Peter Shirer/Shirey 1815 Pennsylvania

galswen1 — 2015-04-04 23:00:36Z

I am looking for information that might help me to link my Peter Shirer/Shirey to an earlier part of the family. My first data for him is from Stark County Ohio where he is living in the late 1830's. He is a member of the local German reformed church where there are several records of him, wife Lydia Bennett, daughter Rachel and daughter Catharine. Family oral history indicates that he comes from a line of stone masons in Germany and he works as a mason during the latter part of his life. Early records seem to link him to the Shirer line but the name changes to Shirey in the mid 1800's. Thanks

Re: DeRyee and Atlee Families in Texas (Orig. Du Ry)

drdx — 2014-12-30 15:30:54Z

Cindy,

Did you see the record for Francis Atlee in my database? I have the following in the notes:

"Francis' parents were Der Yee Pitt Atlee and Idel Blackburn. They appear in the 1930 census in Houston as Debbyee P. Atlee and Ideele Atlee."

The names seem mangled but should give you enough info to trace them backwards. Francis' Texas Death Certificate gives her parents as D. P. Atlee and Idelle Blackburn. The 1910 census has them as DeRyce P. and Idelle Atlee and they are living with her parents, John F. and Fannie Blackburn and were married for three years and his father was born in TN and mother in TX.

Here is his death record:

Name: Deryee Pitt Atlee
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 16 Nov 1967
Event Place: Burnet, Burnet, Texas, United States
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1886
Birthplace: Laredo, Texas
Father's Name: B G Atlee
Mother's Name: Amanda Deryee
Certificate Number: 70486
GS Film number: 2138743
Digital Folder Number: 005144731
Image Number: 02065
Citing this Record: "Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976"
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KSB9-45K : accessed 30 December 2014

Here is the death record for Amanda Deryee Atlee:

Name: Amanda J Atlee
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 08 Oct 1914
Event Place: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, United States
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 01 Apr 1856
Birthplace: , Alabama
Father's Name: Wm De Reyee
Mother's Name: Ida Nyluis
Certificate Number: 19797
GS Film number: 2051129
Digital Folder Number: 005145354
Image Number: 02839
Citing this Record: "Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976"
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K37Y-NJQ : accessed 30 December 2014

I Can't find a death record for B. G Atlee but he is buried with Amanda in Mission Burial Park South in San Antonio. (1848-1933). He is listed as Dr. B.G. Atlee Sr.. His son, Dr. Benhart Gilbert Atlee, Jr. (1881-1906) is found buried in DeLeon cemetery in Comanche co., TX. It says he died in Mexico and perhaps the same may be true for his father which is why there is no Death Record in Texas.

Find them beyond that is going to take some work. There is a Gilbert Atlee (21) and wife Nora in Athens, TN in 1870 next door to what appears to be his mother, Delilah Atlee. In 1880, the E. A. Atlee (32, TN) in Loredo, TX has a 6 month old son named Gilbert.

What really nails it is the 1860 census in Athens, TN:

Edwin A. Atlee, 56, PA, Master Saddler
Delilah Atlee, 56, PA
Letitia Atlee, 18, TN
Mary Atlee, 16, TN
Edwin Atlee, 12, TN
Bernhart Atlee, 10, TN
Bernhart Gilbert Atlee Sr, 74, PA
Susannah Atlee, 74, PA

This would suggest the E.A. Atlee in Laredo is Bernhart's brother. It also include his grandfather who he is named after and his grandmother.

The 1930 census has the following:
Precinct 8, Bee, Texas, United States
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Bernard G Atlee Head M 81 Tennessee
Amanda E Atlee Wife F 45 Texas

That shows Amanda was not his first wife so that must have been the Nora shown in the earlier census.

And with this knowledge we can now find his death record:

Name: Benhardt Gilbert Atlee
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 16 Jan 1933
Event Place: Bee, Texas
Gender:
Marital Status:
Certificate Number: 171
Citing this Record: "Texas, Death Index, 1903-2000"
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VZDS-CVX : accessed 30 December 2014

This should give you a good start to pushing them back a few more generations. If you want more help, you know where to find me!

Denny

Re: DeRyee and Atlee Families in Texas (Orig. Du Ry)

keltcindy81 — 2014-12-29 11:26:00Z

Hello...

My name is Cynthia Marie Shirar. My grandmother was Frances Idelle Atlee. She passed away before I was born. Only met met grandfather Verne "Pop" Shirar when I was very young...

I would be overjoyed for any information regarding the Atlee side of our family...

I hope I'm not too late too ask! (The post above is 11 years old...)

Cindy

Re: Shirers in South Carolina

BettyFoxOregon — 2014-06-24 23:40:18Z

Just to keep every updated on where we are with our Shirer genealogy search:
I discovered a fount of data on Michael Shirer and Paul Shirer in the form of warrants and deeds and such.You can find it here:
http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/
The main problem I am having is trying to find all the variations of the name Shirer. I'm thinking that someone was transcribing it as Shiver now. There are surveys in Broad River for "Barbara Shiver." The location is the same area that Michael Shirer lived. Michael Shirer's wife was named Barbara.
Anyhoo...........that's where we are at the moment. If anyone has any clue about Michael and Paul's parents please feel free to reply to this post. Margaret Cox and I would appreciate it.
Betty Fox

Re: Shirers in South Carolina

BettyFoxOregon — 2014-05-29 15:19:37Z

Greetings,
I have found a record of a marriage of Anna Barbara Scheurer (Michael Scheurer's wife) to Samuel Ernst Gruber 29 Jan. 1769.
Betty

Shirers in South Carolina

BettyFoxOregon — 2014-05-20 19:39:32Z

Greetings all,
My Shirah family connection begins in South Carolina. Recently I have teamed up with Margaret Shirer Cox in order to find out where my Shirer ancestors originated. Margaret lives in SC and is able to get her hands on dead tree data that is unavailable to me via the web.
Recently Margaret has discovered:
http://www.upamerica.org/roots/proceedings.htm
The ships Union, Dragon, and Planters Adventure took about 400 refugees from Gravesend, England on October 7, 1764. The ships Union and Dragon traveled for ten weeks and arrived in Charles Town on December 14th and 16th respectively. The Planters Adventure departed later and arrived on February 12th, 1765.

Here you will find a list of the persons on the ships.
http://www.upamerica.org/roots/rootsappC.html#Feb.%2027,%201...

Listed on the Planters Adventure is a Michael Sherer and a Paul Shawrer. Listed on Dragon is George Sherer aged forty. Catherine Sherer aged 20 arrived on Union and Anna Sherer aged 8 arrived on Dragon.
From this data Margaret looked for records in South Carolina. She found these pieces of information:
1) From A Compilation of the Original Lists of Protestant Immigrants to South Carolina 1763-1773, by Janie Revil, I found that an entry from February 27, 1765. " The following petitions of the German protestants addressed His Honor the Lieutenant Governor setting forth that they were safely arrived in the ship Dragon Captain Hammet and Planters Adventure Captain Lonley from London and humbly prayed to have Warrants of survey for the following tracts in Londonborough Township free of charge were presented and read VIZ" and Michael Sherer was to receive 100 acres.
[b]2)In the Register of St. Philip's Parish, Charles Town or Charleston, SC 1754-1810, there was an entry for the burial of Michael Shirer on March 15, 1767 in the parish[/b]. Guess this is why there were only two children (Adam and Mary) baptized as his children. Wonder how Barbary supported herself and the children.

3) There is another land grant to Paul Shirer in 1768, so hopefully (if he was related as we suspect) he helped out with Michael's widow and children.

4) In the SC Magazine of Ancestral Research, vol 1, p. 150 & 214, on the records for St. Matthews 1818 tax list, Adam Shirah paid his taxes and signed for Paul Shirah.

5) John Adam and Mary Ann Shirer, my ggggranparents, were members of the St. Matthews Lutheran Church. In the Church Records of Saint Matthews Lutheran Church, Orangeburg County, SC and "the Red Church" by Anne Martin Haigler, the marriages recorded during the pastorate of Rev. J. P. Margart include Aaron Shirer to Mary Zeagler on July 24, 1842.
John Adam and Mary Anne later moved to Berkeley County.

Here is the information about Adam Shirer:
( From Shirer Family file at Calhoun County Museum, compiled by Nell P. Reid, attributed to a Bible in possession of C. J. Inabinet)

Adam Shirer born 1773, died August 1825, married Deborah Smith on June 12, 1808. Deborah was born in 1786 and died April 22, 1857.

Children:
1) Sarah Ann born 3/27/1809
2) Charles Paul born 3/6/1810, died 7/17/1866
3) Adam born 11/6/1812
4) Plena Ursula born October 1817, married Caspar Inabinet
5) Aaron Thomas born 2/10/ 1819, died 5/2/1869
6) Eleanor Catherine born 2/9/1824, died 1825
7) Benjamin Franklin born 1/4/1826

So that is as far as we've gotten in regards to SC Shirers. Margaret is going to do some more digging in the archives and see how to reconcile the differences in birth records for Adam Shirer and Michael Shirer's death date. The C.J. Inabinet Bible shows that Adam was born in 1773 and the second record shows that Michael died in 1767. Margaret has found another record about Adam: ,( there is a record of an Adam Shirer, son of Michael and Barbary Shirer, being baptized on November 24, 1762,in the Register of St. Philip's Parish, Charles Town or Charleston, SC, 1754-1810)

So as you can see there are a few discrepancies but we believe the baptism record is more accurate than the Bible record. Sorry if this post is a little unorganized. I just wanted to get all the information in here in case anyone else can use it.
Betty Fox
felicity@foxinnovations.net

Re: Shirer Family of Orangeburg County, SC

margaretcox463 — 2014-04-02 02:30:32Z

Forgive the long time I have taken to answering this... haven't been on Ancestry in a while. I was aware of your third great grandfather Aaron and his marriage to Mary Zeagler, but did not know anything of his descendents so would love to share more information with you. I have a lot of info back to John Adam and Mary Ann Jackson.
The Alice on the 1870 census was John Adam's daughter Alice Adelade, whose age was 20, not 70. Handwriting on census must have been hard to read. According to my information, she married Edward Atkinson of Clearmont, Sumter County, SC in 1875. (this was from family information, not anything I have documented.) Please email me at mcox1263@sc.rr.com so that we have fill each other in on our respective branches of the family.
Margaret Shirer Cox

Alice Shirer 1800 Orangeburg, SC

BettyFoxOregon — 2014-01-09 19:53:05Z

Looking for any information about Alice Shirer b. 1800 mother of Aaron James and John Adam Shirer.

Betty Fox

Re: Shirer Family of Orangeburg County, SC

BettyFoxOregon — 2014-01-09 00:17:02Z

I am also researching the Shirers in Orangeburg. My information shows that John Adam Shirer married to Mary Ann Jackson is the brother of my third great grandfather Aaron James Shirer married to Mary Zeagler 1841. I have found an elderly woman listed on the 1870 census with John Adam Shirer named Allice aged 70 born around 1800. I am still researching who her husband was.
Jacob Shirer is listed as having been granted property in Orangeburg around 1790 or so.
Hope this helps a little.
Get in touch with me if you want more help.
Betty Fox (Oregon)

Re: Margaret B. Shirer

drdx — 2013-09-18 11:00:20Z

Sorry for your loss Richard. The lack of records on her parents may indicate one or both may have died shortly after her birth. I'm guessing to find any real answers you are going to have to visit Dade county and look for her birth record and adoption record, her parents marriage, divorce, and or death records and perhaps newspaper articles from that time period. If you are unable to travel there, try contacting the Dade County Genealogy Society and ask if they can do some of the research for you or suggest someone who can be your research proxy.

Some of the answers may be in court records, both common pleas and probate and occasionally some documents, especially land records and death records may be at the Recorders office. Some counties combine the Clerk and Recorder so check online at the County's website to see how to inquire about those records. These searches may involve a fee but they are going to be a lot less than traveling expenses. Genealogy Societies usually only charge for materials but consider a donation especially if they get results.

Since you now have her parents names you can start looking for them in records in South Carolina and Alabama. I only did a cursory search and found nothing but you may try joining some of the mailing lists and reaching out to other researchers as you did on this board for more answers. I have not seen or run across many southern Shirer researchers, especially on the Shirer Boards and Mailing list which I admin but you may have more luck with the McKineys/McKinneys. Neither family seemed to be in Florida for long before Margaret was born so it is likely they met and married there but previous census records may find them in their home states.

Good luck on your quest. Feel free to post any results you find here.

Re: Margaret B. Shirer

richardbruce3 — 2013-09-18 00:30:32Z

Thank you for your research and your reply. margaret was my wife and died in Tucson, AZ. The date of birth in 1945 is correct. For some reason she did not want to contact her biological
family when she was alive.

Re: Margaret B. Shirer

drdx — 2013-09-17 15:13:43Z

This is not my Shirer line but I had to check to make sure.

I found Frank and Althia Hartman in the 1940 Fed Census and the 1945 Florida State census in Miami, FL. In 1945 they were living at 1442 NW 61st St. They had no children.

Also in the 1945 State census a short ways away was the following family:

1945 FL ST Census Dade Co., Miami
2404 NW 60th St
McKiney, Lela, 53, Alabama
Shirer, Oland, 30 SC
Shirer Lucille, 21, Alabama
McKiney, Robert, 25, Alabama
Shirer, Margaret, 0, FL
Florida, State Census, 1945," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11684-10705-14?... : accessed 17 Sep 2013), Dade > 022, Miami

You did not specify anything about Margaret except her death in 2000 and I couldn't find a death record for her so I can't tell what surname she died with so I can't tell if this Margaret in the 1945 census is her or not. This Margaret appears to be the daughter of Oland Shirer and Lucille McKiney. I looked for Oland Shirer and this is the only record he is associated with so either this is his middle name or it is misspelled. The last name may not be Shirer but the southern Shirer line did originate in South Carolina so it seems likely it is correct. I looked for any Shirer born 1919-1920 in South Carolina in other records and found some possibles. There was a Coley Shirer born in Sumter, SC the same age. He had a brother named Ollie but he was older and I found an obit for Ollie and it does not mention Margaret so count him out but Coley may be a possibility. There was also a Clarence Shirer, 48, SC, in the 1945 census in Miami who I thought may be Oland's father but following him back he was single in previous census records. I wouldn't count him out as being related. I also could not find the McKineys which may also be spelled McKinney. I looked for each of those household members in previous census records and couldn't find anything. Birth, Death, Marriage and Divorce records also proved fruitless looking for these folk so this seems to be all I could find without actually going to Miami and looking at birth records there. At least this may give you more information then what you had. Wish I could have helped more.

Margaret B. Shirer

richardbruce3 — 2013-09-17 12:53:23Z

Looking gor relatives of person I'D above. I'm starting this research for my children who have been asking questions. She was adopted by Frank and Althia Hartman when she was a child.
They lived in Hialeah (Miami) Florida. Margaret died of cancer in August 2000. I need info to sstart my search. Thank you.

Re: DeRyee and Atlee Families in Texas (Orig. Du Ry)

cito32 — 2011-12-22 13:22:40Z

http://gw4.geneanet.org/oduryvanbeestholle_w?lang=nl;pz=gera...`

Is this what you are looking for?

Re: Peter Shirer

2006-11-17 16:33:45Z

Good Morning. My part of the Shirey line moved west in the late 1800's so have been separated from the Allen County Shirey's for a while. Drop me a note at Galswen@aol.com and we can share data.

Noel

Re: Peter Shirer

2006-11-17 03:32:25Z

Hi......Yes John did have a brother Lewis (Louis 1853 - 1923). The children I have listed for Lewis were Daisy, Lillie and Chauncy. Does this sound like your family? My first info on Peter is from Clark County, Ohio where he married Lydia Bennett.

Look forward to hearing back from you.

Noel

Scheurer/Shirer Reunion

DonBOYD35 — 2007-05-07 01:58:25Z

Would like to find descendants of Michael Scheurer who moved his large family from IA to KS around 1880, for the purpose of organising a reunion of descendants of Johann Friedrich Scheurer, in or near LaPorte City, IA where he and other members of the family are buried.

Re: Scheiner/Shirers from Solotwina or Martinau/Martynow, Austria

emluks — 2010-02-08 06:41:16Z

I was wondering if your "Max Scheiner" could be "Meshulem Scheiner" who came from Solotwina and arrived in 1913. He listed his nearest relative in country of origin as his father Leib Scheiner. I believe Meshulem is a relative of mine and I can elaborate on the connection if this could be your Max.

Eugene Luks

Re: Catherine A Shirer, abt 1801 - 185?

Denny_Shirer — 2006-09-05 15:37:36Z

Charles Shirar of Temple, TX 1935

drbrownlee — 2009-11-12 00:05:17Z

Charles is pictured in the 1935 Cotton Boll, yearbook of Temple High School. He is a senior. I'm not related but thought this might help someone's family search.

Elizabeth Anne Shirer

barnowlcan — 2010-05-22 17:57:18Z

Looking for information on Elizabeth Anne Shirer born in Scotland between 1896 and 1898 - moved to Canada between 1919 and 1921.

Re: Catherine A Shirer, abt 1801 - 185?

mpbeck — 2006-09-05 19:17:09Z

Denny,

thank you for your post/reply!

I just discovered this branch of the old family tree this past weekend once I received my gr-gr-gr-grandfather Adam Burket's death certificate, which listed Catherine Shirer as his mother's maiden name. I'll definitely read through your website and let you know if I come across anything on this Catherine.

Thanks again!

mpb

Re: Shirer Family of Orangeburg County, SC

carriej63 — 2010-03-07 21:00:23Z

My greatgrandfather was William Perry Shirer who married Susan Emily Felder. I think he was born around 1865. They also lived and were born in the Amelia Township (now know as St.Matthews),S.C. I don,t know very much before that time and am in the process of searching myself, but if I find any info will let you know if you are still interested.

Scheiner/Shirers from Solotwina or Martinau/Martynow, Austria

HayleyGrill — 2009-05-28 08:22:22Z

My paternal grandfather was Max Scheiner (aka Mendel; Max Shirer) born 1 Oct 1893 in either Solotwina, Austria (Solotwina, Poland) or Martynow, Austria (Martinau, Tirol, Austria).

He arrived in 1913 and married Feiger (Fanny) Reiter in 1918. Their children were Renee, William, Ethel (later Grill), Bertha (Blema) and Irving. Died Feb 1 1965 and is burried in Beth El Cemetary in Paramus NJ.

There is a lot more information on my public tree but please contact me for more information. Thanks

Shirer Family of Orangeburg County, SC

margaretcox463 — 2009-11-23 01:18:10Z

My gggrandfather was John Adam Shirer, who was born in the St. Matthews area in 1812. I would like to find his father or his connection to any Shirers in St. Matthews, Orangeburg County or Calhoun County today. Any information from any Shirer family researchers would be appreciated.

Re: Charles Shirar of Temple, TX 1935

drdx — 2009-11-12 06:22:55Z

Thanks for the post. Is that yearbook online somewhere?

Re: SHIRER Converse M.

drdx — 2009-10-01 22:31:44Z

March 23 was the date I thought it should be. Even though his gravestone is pretty worn, it is legible enough to show that they used the Convers spelling. The name is not a family name and I suppose he was named after Daniel Converse who oddly enough is also found with both spellings so I'm not sure which is correct. His military record lists him as Converse Shirer but he was buried by his parents and unless a mistake was made on the stone and they couldn't afford to get another, they must have used the spelling on the stone.

Re: John Shirer/Johannes Schurer

drdx — 2011-11-03 02:59:29Z

Tom,

Lewis is the son of Charles and Nina Shirer of Fayette Co., PA. Charles in turn was the son of Charles Shirer (1829-1879) He had two wives, Susan Thomas and Susan Barnes. I'm not sure of the order but it would seem Charles Jr. was the son of the second wife as he was the youngest, at least according to the 1870 census.

Charles Sr. was the son of John Shirer (1798-1862) and Solome Wagner. John was the son of Peter Shirer and Gertraut Derr of Salisbury, Somerset Co., PA. He was the son of John and Elizabeth Shirer. The line at that point goes no further. I have a theory John is the son of JOhan Augustus Scherer/Scheurer who came with a brother and uncle abord the Thistle in 1730. Augustus waffled between PA and MD finally settling in MD. not all of his children are identified and John was born a little over a year after Augustus was married so the timeline fits. Augustus, his uncle and brother were from Lachen-Speyerdorf, Palatinate. They are found in one of the emmigrant books of that area. The minister of the Lutheran church there indentified most of the congregation as being descended from Swiss refugees. John's family has an oral history that the family came from Switzerland which fits this family as well.

My Ancestor Valentine Scheurer was thought by many to be a brother to Peter Shirer but this is not true as Valentine is from Berks Co. John and Peter were always associated with Maryland and many of Peter's descendants moved back there.

I had done a lot of research on this family originally but that was mostly to prove or disprove their relationship and they now fall into the unrelated column so I no longer research them. You can however find some information on them in a separate database on my website. The following is a direct url to the record for Charles Shirer Sr. I do not have his children on there but the census records are very easy to find to tie him to your father.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mysong/joh...

Valentine Shirer Sr. Deed to John Stoner, 1814 - Washington Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-29 23:42:31Z

Vol D Pg 573

Recorded March 22, 1815

This Indenture made this twenty sixth day
of November, in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred
And fourteen between Valantine Shirey and Elizabeth his
wife of Muskingum County and State of Ohio of
The one part and John Stoner of the same place of the
other part witnesseth, that the the said Valentine Shirey and
Elizabeth his wife for and in consideration of the sum of

Vol D Page 574

One hundred and sixty dollars to them in hand paid by the
said John Stoner the receipt where of they do hereby acknowled-
ge have granted bargained and sold and by these presents
do give grant bargain and sell, release convey and confirm to
the said John Stoner his heirs and assigns Ninety five acres
of land with the appertenances situate lying and being in
The first Quarter, second Township and Seventh Range of
the United States Military land in Muskingum county and
State of Ohio, and bounded as follows viz Beginning at a post
Corner to Land of Joseph Sharp, thense west with said Sharps
Land Twenty six and a half chains and fifteen links to a corner
Thence south thirty five chains Sixty four and a half links to a corner
thence East twenty six and a half chains and fifteen links to a corner
thence North 35 chains and sixty four and a half links
To the place of Beginning, containing ninety five acres, be the same
More or less. It is a part of the same tract which John Adams
President of the United States granted by Patten to Jonus Sta-
nsbury of New York and the said Jonus Stansbury, by his De-
ed dated the Eleventh day of November Eighteen hundred did conv-
ey to Alexander Struthers and the said Alexander Struthers
By his Deed dated the seventh day of August Eighteen hundr-
ed and Eight did convey to Andrew Anderson the said
Andrew Anderson by his deed dated the Twenty seventh day
of December, Eighteen Hundred and Thirteen did convey to the
Above named Valentine Shirey together with the appertenances to
Have and to hold the above described tract of land with the Ap-
pertenances there to belonging to the said John Stoner his heirs
And assigns to the only proper use and behoof of him the sai-
s John Stoner his heirs and assigns forever and the said
Valentine Shirey and Elizabeth his wife for themselves their
Heirs executors and administrators doth hereby Covenant and
Agree to and with the said John his heirs or assigns that
They, the said Valentine Shirey and Elizabeth his wife the above descr-
ibed tract of land and appertenances to the said John Stoner his
Heirs and assigns shall and will warrant and forever defend afrom
All claims whatsoever in testimony where of the aforesaid Val-
entine Shirey and Elizabeth his Wife have hereunto set there
Hands and seals the day and year first above written.

Valentine Shirey (Seal)
her
Elisabeth X Shirey (Seal)
mark

Signed sealed and
Delivered in presense of
Sealedand delivered
in the presence of
John Adams
George Shurtz

State of Ohio Muskingum County
I hereby ceritfy that Valentine Shirey
Elisabeth his wife personally appeared
before me the subscriber & Justice of the peace of said county
and made the acknowledgments required by Law to the written instrument
given under long hand & seal this the 26th day of November in the year of our Lord 1814. John Adams

John Adams JP

Re: David Shirer Deed from Valentine Shirer Jr, 1846 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-29 00:31:51Z

Made a transcription error. The wife's signature on the deed from Valentine Shirer to David Shirer should be "Ester" Shirer not Lydia.

Re: David Shirer Deed to Valentine Shirer Jr., 1846 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 19:19:12Z

Deed attached

David Shirer Deed to Valentine Shirer Jr., 1846 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 19:14:51Z

Vol. 9, Pg 444
David Shirer to Valentine Shirer
Entered Oct 16, 1846
Recorded Oct 21, 1846

Know all men by these presents that we David Shirer and
Lydia Shirer wife of said David Shirer of Muskingum County and State
of Ohio in consideration of the sum of Sixteen Hundred dollars in
hand paid by Valentine Shirer do hereby release renige and forever quit
claim unto the said Valentine Shirer his heirs and assigns forever all
our life interest and whole legal and equitable in the following
premises in Adams Township Muskingum County Ohio being part
of szection sixteen in Township Three Range Six Military Districts
of lands directed to be sold at Zanesville Ohio and boundaries and descri
bed as follows Commencing in centre of Section Sixteen Township Three
Range Six from which a white oak twenty six inches in diam
eter bears South sixty degrees West Seventy three links distant
just South Eleven chains and fifty links on the line between the
South East & SOuth West quarter of section Sixteen to a post from
which a gum 10 inches in diam bears west Eight Links and red oak
8 inch in diameter bears South forty eight degrees West Sixteen links thence
West Twenty two chs and fifty links to a post in meadow thence
North Sixteen & a half degrees West twelve chains to a post in
Orchard from which apple tree bears 52° East thirty
eight links dist thence North thirteen and a half deg West
nine chains to a post upper end of Orchard thence North six deg
West Seventeen chains and forty eight links to a post from which
a hickory 10 inch diam bears North Seventy deg West forty one
links thence West ten chs & thirty five links to West line of Sec
tion at post from which a Black Oak 10 inches diam bears N
thirty Six deg E thirty lks dst thence North thirteen chs & thirty links to
NE corner of West half of said section 16 thence South forty chs
& Eleven links to centre of section the place of beginning Estimated to
contain one hundred and Sixty acres & Seventy hundredths
of an acre more or less To have and to hold the same
to the said Valentine Shirer his heirs and assigns forever and we
will warrant and forever defend said premises against the law
ful claims of all persons whomsoever. In testimony
whereof we have hereunto set our hands and seals the 27th
day of April AD 1846.
his
David X Shirer (Seal)
mark
her
Lydia X Shirer (Seal)
mark

Executed in the presence of
Geo Smythe
Haley W Shirer

The State of Ohio Muskingum County so
before me Geo Smythe a Justice of the Peace in and for said county
personally appeared the within named Davy Shirer and
Lydia Shirer his wife and acknowledge the signing and
sealing of the within conveyence to be their voluntary act
and deed and the said Lydia being at the same time examined by me
separate and apart from her said husband and the con
tents of said Instrument made known to her by me she then
declared that she did voluntarily sign seal and acknowledge the
same and that she is still satisfied.

This 27th day of April AD 1846
Geo Smythe JP

Valentine Shirer Jr. Deed, to Jane Shirer, 1850 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 18:25:56Z

(Valentine Shirer Jr. sold six acres of his land to his 17 year old daughter Jane.)

Valentine Shirer to Jane Shirer
Entered Oct 23, 1850
Recorded Oct 23, 1850

Know all men by these presents that we Valentine Shirer
and Hester his wife of the county of Muskingum and state of Ohio in
consideration of the sum of Sixty dollars in hand paid by Jane Shirer
of the same place have bargained and sold and do hereby grant
bargain sell and convey unto the said Jane Shirer and her
heirs forever the following premises Situate in the County of Muskin
gum and State of Ohio commencing at the North East corner of the
North West quarter of Section Sixteen Range three and Township

Vol. 18, Pg 291
Six thence South thirty one rods thense West thirty one rods thence North
thirty one rods thence East thirty one rods to the place of beginning Estimated
to contain Six acres more or less - To Have and To Hold said premises
with the appertenances unto the said Jane Shirer and her heirs
forever and that we will forever warrant and defend the same with the
apertenances unto the said Jane Shirer and her heirs against
the lawful claim of all persons whomsoever In testimony where of
we the said Valentine Shirer and Hester Shirer have hereunto set our
hands and seals this first day of August in the year of our Lord One
Thousand Eight Hundred and Fifty (1850).

Valentine Shirer seal
Hester Shirer seal

Executed in the presence of
Robert Heart
Shinette Shirar

State of Ohio Muskingum County so
Before me Robert Heart as Justice of the peace in and for said county
personally appeared Valentine Shirera nd Hester his wife and ack
nowledge the signing and sealing the written conveyence to be their
voluntary act and deed and the said Hester being of the same
time examined by me seperate and apart from her said husband
and the contents of said Instrument made known to her by me she
then declared that she did voluntarily sign seal and acknowledge
the same and that she is still satisfied the therewith.

Given under my hand officially this 3 day of August AD 1850
Robert Heart JP

David Ruse Deed to Valentine Shirer Jr., 1850 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 18:20:04Z

(This land originally belonged to Valentine Shirer Sr. and left to David Shirer after his death. David sold the land to David Ruse after moving to Carroll Co., IN. Ruse sold it back to Valentine Shirer Jr. a few years later returning the land in the Shirer family.)

Vol. 18, Pg 289
David Ruse to Valentine Shirer
Entered Oct 23, 1850
Recorded Oct 23, 1850

Know all men by these presents that we David Ruse
and Catherine Ruse wife of said Daivid Ruse of Adams Township county
Muskingum and state of Ohio in consideration of the
sum of One Hundred and fourteen dollars to them in hand paid
by Valentine Shirer of the Township and States aforesaid
have bargained and sold and do hereby sell and convey

Vol. 18, Pg 290

unto the said Valentine Shirer and his heirs forever the following
premises Situate in the township County and state aforesaid described and
bounded as follows A part of the west Half of Section Sixteen commencing
at the corner where the Subdivision line intersects the West line of the Half
Section running as follows South twenty two 56/100 rods to a post thence East
forty three 60/100 rods to Subdivision line to a post thence North 6° West
twenty 60/100 rods to corner thence West forty one 60/100 rods to the place of
beginning estimated to contain six acres be the same more or less The above
described Six acres of land being part of the Farm Sold by Davie Shirer and
wife to the above named David Ruse by deed bearing date the Eleventh day
of October One thousand eight hundred and Forty Eight and Recorded in the
Recorder's Office said Muskingum County in Book No 13 pages 451 and 452
To Have and To Hold said premises with the appertenances unto the said
Valentine Shirer and his heirs and assigns forever and the said David Ruse
for himself and his heirs doth hereby covenant with said Valentine Shirer his
heirs and assigns that he is lawfully seized of the premises aforesaid
the premises are free and clear from all incumbrances whatsoever and
that he will forever warrant and defend the same with the appertenances
unto the said Valentine Shirer and his heirs and assigns against the lawful
claims of all persons whatsoever. In testimony whereof the said David
Ruse and Catherine Ruse have hereunto set their hands and seals this
first day of August in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hun
dred and Fifty (1850).

David Ruse (Seal)
Catherine Ruse (Seal)

In presence of
Robert Heart
Abrm Shirer

State of Ohio Muskingum County so
Before me Robert Heart a Justice of the peace in and for said county person
ally appeared David Ruse and Catherine his wife
and acknowledge the above conveyence to be their voluntary act and deed
and the said Catherine being of the same time examined by me
seperate and apart from her said husband and the contents of
said Conveyence made known to her by me she then declared that
she did voluntarily sign seal and acknowledge the same and that
she is still satisfied therewith. Given under my hand
officially this 3 day of August 1850
Robert Heart JP

David Shirer Deed to David Ruse, 1848 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 18:13:14Z

(After his move to Carroll Co., IN, David Shirer sold his family farm in Adms Twp., Muskingum Co., OH to David Ruse. This was the land he had inherited from his father.)

Vol. 13, Pg 451
David Shirer to David Ruse
Entered Oct 23, 1848
Recorded Oct 23, 1848

Know all men by these presents that we David Shirer and Lydia Shirer wife of said
David Shirer of the county of Carroll Indiana in consideration of the sum of Fourteen
Hundred dollars in hand paid by David Ruse of the County of Muskingum Ohio have
bargained and sold and do hereby grant bargain sell and convey unto the said
David Ruse his heirs and assigns forever the following premises Situate in the County
of Muskingum in the state of Ohio described and bounded as follows A part of the
west Half of Section Sixteen (7th) Township Three (3) Range Six (6) in the United States
Military District of lands sold at Zanesville Ohio Beginning at a part Eleven (11)
chains and fifty (50) links South of the centre corner of said Sextion Sixteen from which
past a gum tree 10 inches in diameter bears West Eight links distant and a red oak
8 inches in diameter bears South forty eight degrees West 16 links distant thence
West Twenty two (22) chains and fifty (50) links to a part in a meadow thence
North Sixteen and one half degrees (16 1/2) West twelve (12) chains to a post in
Orchard from which an apple tree bears South fifty two degrees (52°) East
38 links distant and another apple tree bears N 69° W 34 links distant
thence North Thirteen and one half degrees (13 1/2°) West nine (9) chains to
the upper end of the Orchard thence North six degrees (6) West Seventeen
(17) Chains and forty eight (48) links to a post from which a hickory 10
inches in diameter bears N 70° W 41 links distant thence West ten (10) chains
and thirty five (35) links to a post in the West boundary of said Section
from which a Black Oak 10 inches in diameter bears N 36° E 30 links
distant thence South Sixty Six (66) chains and twenty five (25) links to
the South West corner of said section thence East forty (40) chains and
Twenty four (24) links to the South East corner of the South West Quarter
of said Section thence with the East boundary of said Quarter North
twenty eight (28) chains and sixty two (62) links to the place of beginning Estimated
to contain One hundred and sixty (160) acres and Seventy hundreds (70/100) of an
acre being the same land which was conveyed by Valentine Shirer and
wife to the Grantor by deed recorded in the Recorders Office said Muskingum
County in Book No 9 page 443 And all the right of dower of the said Lydia
Shirer in and to the said premises which right of dower the said
Lydia Shirer hereby expressly relinquishes
To have and to hold said premises with the appertenances unto the said
David Ruse his heirs and assigns forever and the said David Shirer
for himself and his heirs doth hereby covenant with said David Ruse his
his heirs and assigns that he is lawfully seized of the premises afore
said that the premises are free and clear from all incumbrances
whatsoever and that he will forever warrant and defend the same
with the appertenances unto the said David Ruse his heirs and
assigns against the lawful claims of all persons whomsoever.
In testimony whereof the said David Shirer and Lydia Shirer
have hereunto set their hands and seals this Eleventh day of
Octobert in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and forty eight (AD 1848).

his
David X Shirer (Seal)
mark
her
Lydia X Shirer (Seal)
mark

In presence of
John E Ross
Joseph Fisher

pg 452

State of Ohio Muskingum County so
Before me Joseph Fisher a Justice of the Peace within
and for said county personally appeared the within named
David Shirer and Lydia his wife and acknowledge the signing
and sealingof the within conveyence to be their voluntary act and deed and
the said Lydia being at the same time examined by me separate and apart
from her said husband and the contents of said Instrument made known
to her by me she then declared that she did voluntarily sign seal and acknow
ledge the same and that she is still satisfied therewith.

This 11 day of October 1848
Joseph Fisher Justice of the Peace

David Shirer Deed from Valentine Shirer Jr, 1846 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 18:07:02Z

(After their father's original deed of 1825 was recorded in 1846, Valentine Shirer Jr. sold part of his land to his brother David.)

Vol. 9, Pg 443
Valentine Shirer to David Shirer
Entered Oct 16, 1846
Recorded Oct 21, 1846

Know all men by these presents that we Valentine Shirer and Esther
Shirer wife of said Valentine Shirer of the county of Muskingum and
State of Ohio in consideration of the sum of Sixteen Hundred dollars
in hand paid by Davy Shirer his heirs and assigns forever the have
bargained and sold and do hereby grant bargain sell and convey unto the said
David Ruse his heirs and assigns forever the
following premises in Adams Township Muskingum County Ohio
and bounded and described as follows Commencing Eleven chains
and Fifty links South of the centre Section Sixteen Township three
Range Six being half of the South West quarter and part of the North West
at a post from which a gum 10 inches in diameter bears West Eight
links distant at red oak 8 inch in diameter South forty eight degrees West
Sixteen lks distant then West Twenty two chains and fifty lks a part in
meadow thence North Sixteen & a half degrees West 12 chs to a post
in Orchard from which apple tree bears South 52° East, 38 links
dist & apple tree N 69° W 34 links dist thence North 13 1/2° W nine chs
upper end of Orchard thence N 6° W Seventeen Chs and forty
eight links to a post from which a hickory 10 inch dm bears N 70°
W 41 lks thence West ten chs and thirty five links to West line of Sec
tion at a post from which a Black Oak 10 inches dm bears N 36°
E 30 lks $ chestnut 12 inches N 40° E 37 Lks dist thence South Sixty
Six chs and twenty five lks to South West corner of South West Quarter
of said Section 16 thence East Forty chs & Twenty four chs
to South East corner of said quarter thence North Seventy Eight
chs and Sixty two links on half of sectionline to the place of
beginning Estimated to contain One hundred and sixty acres
& 70/100 acre more or less To have and to hold the ???? to the said
David Shirer his heirs and assigns forever and We will
warrant and forever defend the premises against the lawful claims
of all persons whomsoever. In testimony whereof who have
hereunto set our hands and seals the 27th day of April AD 1846.

Valentine Shirer (Seal)
Lydia Shirer (Seal)

Executed in the presence of
Geo Smythe
Haley W Shirer

The State of Ohio Muskingum County so
before me Geo Smythe a Justice of the Peace in and for said county
personally appeared the within named Valentine Shirer and Esther
Shirer his wife and acknowledge the signing and sealing of
the within conveyence to be their voluntary act and deed and
the said Esther being at the same time examined by me
separate and apart from her said husband and the con
tents of said Instrument made known to her by me she then
declared that she did voluntarily sign seal and acknowledge the
same and that she is still satisfied.

This 27th day of April AD 1846
Geo Smythe JP

Valentine Shirer Deed, 1825 - Adams Twp., Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 17:59:26Z

(This deed was not recorded until after Valentine Shirer's death. It was recorded in 1846 by sons David Shirer and Valentine Shirer Jr. as tennants in common.)

Vol 9 Pg 442
United States to V. Shirer
Executed Oct 16th 1846
Recorded Oct 16th 1846

John Quincy Adams President of the United States
of America To all to whom these presents shall come greeting:
Know ye that David Shirer and Valentine Shirer Junior
assigns of Valentine Shirer having deposited in the General land
office the certificate of the register of the land office at Zanesville whereby it
appears that full payment has been made for the West half
of section sixteen in Township Three of Range Six of the unap
propriated lands in the Military District containing Three
Hundred and Forty one acres and four hundredths of an acre
of the lands subject to be sold at Zanesville Ohio by the act
of congress entitled "An act providing for the sale of the land
of the United States in the Territory North West of the Ohio
and above the mouth of the Kentucky River" and of the note
amendatory of the same there is granted by the United
States unto the said David Shirer and Valentine Shirer Jr and
to their heirs the half lot on section of land afore described and
to have and to hold said half lot on section of land with
the appertenances unto the said David Shirer and Valentine
Shirer Junior and to their heirs and assigns forever as tenants
in common and not as Joint Tennants. In Testimony
where I have caused these letters to be made patent and
the seal of the General land office to be hereunto affixed
Given under my hand at the City of Washington the
{ seal of the } fourth day of January the year of our Lord
{United States} One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty five
{ General } And the Independance of the United States
(Land Office } of America the Forty Ninth.
By the President J. Q. Adams
Grantee Vol 51 page 409
Examined

Geo. H. Graham commissioner of the General Land Office

Valentine Shirer Deed, 1813 - Washington Twp, Muskingum Co., OH

drdx — 2008-08-28 17:55:15Z

(This deed was recently found documenting the first land sale to Valentine Shirer in Muskingum County, OH. It was previously thought he purchased land in Adams township after leasing land in Madison township. It now appears he firsat bought land in Washington township and lived there for about 12 years before purchasing the family land in Adams township. Attached is the original image of this deed)

Vol D Pg 344

344 R. June 1st, 1814

This Indenture made this twenty seventh day
of December, One thousand eight hundred and thirteen between Andrew Anderson
and Jean his wife of Jefferson County and State of Ohio of the one part & Valentine
Shirey of Muskingum County and state aforesaid of the other part coutriesseth(sp),
That he the said Andrew Anderson and Jean his wife for and in consideration
of the sum of one hundred dollars to them in hand paid by the said Val-
entine Shirey the weiht(sp) where of they do hereby acknowledge have granted bar-
gained, sold, confessed, released and confirmed and by these presents do grant
bargain and sell onfi off, release and confirm to the said Valentine Shirey
his heirs and assigns Ninety five acres of land with the appertenances situate
lying and being in the first quarter, second Township and seventh Range
of the United States Military Land in Muskingum county and state of
Ohio, and bounded as follows Viz. Beginning wk a part, corner to Land of
Joseph Sharp, thense west with said Sharp twenty six and a half Chains and
fifteen links to a corner, thense South thirty five chains and Sixty four and
a half links to a corner, thence East twenty six and a half Chains and fifteen
links to a corner, thnce North thirty five chains and thirty five and a
half links to the place of beginning, containing ninety five acres be the
same more or less. It is a part of the same tract of Land which John Adams
president of the United States granted by patent to Janus Stansbury of
New York and the said Janus Stansbury, by his deed dated the seventh
day of November Eighteen hundred did convey to Alexander Struthers and
the said Alexander Struthers by his deed dated the Seventh day of August
Eighteen hundred and Eight, did convey to the above named Andrew
Anderson (to have and to hold) together with the appertenances
(described the tract of land promised with the appertenances) to the said Valentine Shirey his
heirs and assigns to the only proper use and behalf of him the said
Valentine Shirey his heirs or assigns forever And the said Andrew
Anderson himself and his heirs executors and administrators doth
hereby covenant and agree to and with the said Valentine Shirey his
heirs or assigns that he the said Andrew Anderson the above described
tract of land and promises to the said Valentine Shirey his heirs or
assigns, shall and will warrant and forever Defend against all persons
and claims whatsoever: Intestimony where of the aforesaid Andrew
Anderson and Jean his wife have hereunto set their hands and seals
the day and year first above written.
Andrew Anderson (Seal)
Jean Anderson (Seal)

Sealed and delivered
in presense of
Thos. Elliot
William Elliot

State of Ohio Jefferson County so
Before me Thos. Elliot a Justice of the peace in and
for said county came Andrew Anderson and Jean
his wife and acknowledged the written instrument of
writing to be there act and deed for the purposes therein contained and the said
Jean being by me examined seperate and apart from her said husband did
declared that she signed and as her act and deed delivered as the same without
the coersion or compulsion from her said husband. Witness my hand and
seal this twenty seventh day of December A. Dom. 1813.

Thos. Elliot Justice of the peace

Scheurer DNA Project

drdx — 2007-09-21 19:29:11Z

Fellow Shirer and Scheurer researchers,
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I have begun a DNA project through The Readers Digest Genographic Project and the Family Tree DNA Project. We are looking to collect DNA from Scheurer descendants, no matter what variant of the name, to help provide evidence as to where we came from and whether all the Scheurer lines are related.
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Some of the common variations are Shirer, Shirar, Sheirer, Shirey, Shearer, Scherry, Sherry, and more.
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Most of us know that the Scheurer surname is an occupational name, meaning that it's origin was a name given to a person or family based on the type of work they did. The common belief is that the name means "shearer" and was given initially to people who sheared sheep but was later given to anyone who then processed the wool such as weavers and tailors. An occupational name does not guarantee that two people with the same name are related. Consider the names Smith or Cooper.
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The Y Chromosone DNA results can help determine if a line has the same paternal roots. The test will work for both males and females but will give results only following the paternal line. The mtDNA test follows a maternal line. We are only interested in the Y testing. There are a few different test, actually the same test but some are more involved and will yield better results with more resulting markers. The initial test is available through the Readers Digest Genographic Project which can be found at:
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Anyone who has already ordered this kit and received their results can through the provided links after log in, contribute your date to the associated FamilyTreeDNA project and join the Scheurer Project. You can also go straight to the FamilyTreeDNA Project and purchase a kit through them. More detailed kits increase in cost.
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The link below will take you directly to the page where you can order a kit and join the Scheurer DNA Project.
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The more Scheurer descendants that join the project, the better we will be able to map out our origins.

Re: SHIRER Converse M.

drdx — 2009-10-01 02:27:53Z

Lace,

Thanks for posting this. I didn't think there was an obit for Converse and family history has it he died at his parent's home in Adamsville. This clears that up!

Denny

SHIRER Converse M.

Contribution — 2009-09-30 14:49:15Z

CONVERSE M. SHIRER whose death at Porter's Hotel. Zanesville you noticed a few days ago, was a member of Captain Egan's company 97th regiment-not of the 122nd as you stated. He was a young man of correct habits, and enjoyed the confidence and esteem of a very large circle of friends and acquaintances. He was a consistent member of the Baptist church at Adamsville in this county, where he resided up to the time of his enlistment in the army of his country. Shortly after the battle at Perryville, Kentucky he was taken prisoner by Morgan's men and paroled, when he returned home enervated by disease contracted during the severe exposure to which his regiment was incident during their march through Kentucky into the slaughter pen of Buell and Bragg at Perryville, from which disease he never recovered, and which doubtless, was the remote cause of his death.
Among many acquaintances he leaves a good name, while we are not without hope that he has enetered upon the scenes of "a better country even an heavenly."
A funeral sermon will be preached by his pastor Rev. S. Siegfried, at Adamsville on Sabbath next, 29th inst. at 11 O'CLOCK, A.M.

FRIEND

The Courier, Zanesville, Ohio
p.2
Monday Evening March 23 or 28, 1863

Muskingun County, Ohio

Re: SHIRER Converse M.

Contribution — 2009-10-01 09:30:20Z

The date the article appeared was March 23rd 1863 page two in The Courier. I re-checked.
I see his name also spelled Convers M. Shirer.

Re: Peter Shirer

kmberly817 — 2006-11-17 13:49:11Z

YES, YES, YES....

Sorry, I am sooo excited. Chauncy was my great Grandpa. We always called him Granddad. This is so exciting. I can't wait to talk to you some more to share more info/stories, whatever.

Thanks.... you just made my week. I have been getting really discouraged regarding my Shirey line.

Talk to ya soon.

Kim

Re: Peter Shirer

kmberly817 — 2006-11-17 01:00:16Z

Hi Noel... I am so happy to read your post. I think your GGP John is the brother to my Great Great Grandpa Lewis. Like you, I have seen other researchers work and am having trouble finding the documentation linking Peter with Lewis, not to mention finding anyone before Peter Shirey. I would love to correspond with you!! (maybe = cousin).

Kim

Re: George Shirer - Pennsylvania

MelvinShirer — 2010-02-20 22:50:01Z

My 1/2 brother (same mother)is Charles Michael Shirer. His grandfather was Charles Michael Shirer, born 1864, died 1946, who had 13 children, one of whose name was George Shirer. I am adopted by Harold Ray Shirer, born 1917, died 1982, last child of Charles Michael Shirer. Harold Ray Shirer and his father, Charles Michael Shirer lived in Pennsylvania. I believe they lived in Uniontown. Harold was born in Isabella, PA. Don't know if this helps you. There is a Shirer/Thomas cemetery in PA. I can direct you there if you wish. Best regards,

Melvin L. Shirer
MelvinShirer@aol.com

Re: John Shirer/Johannes Schurer

tomshirer — 2011-11-03 01:58:04Z

I would like to find out more about the history of my family. My Uncle Walter Shirer, brother of Lewis Edward Shirer, my father (Penn,born 1914) had compiled a generous amount of information before his death in 1972.I and my family would appreciate any information or possibly any photos or copies if possible.
Thank you, Thomas F. Shirer born in Ca.1954
My brothers are Lewis Edward Shirer ll, and John Patrick Shirer,Sister Rosa Marie Shirer and Cheryl Ann Shirer

Schurer,Schura, Shura

2005-11-23 22:52:20Z

Information on a Millwright named Schurer who worked in the Hauge Mill in Slangerup, Denmark in 1855-1856. Schurer and Catrine Sundersun gave birth to a son on February 19, 1856. Their son was our Grandfather, and the name was changed several times for different reasons. The name went from Schurer to Schura to Skura (in landing in New York in 1889) then to Shura around around 1915. Perhaps the reason being it sounded German and that may not have been a popular name around that time.

Catherine A Shirer, abt 1801 - 185?

mpbeck — 2006-09-05 13:16:32Z

Looking for information on Catherine A Shirer, wife of Jacob Burket, of Southampton Twp, Somerset Co., PA. She was born around 1801 and is not listed after the 1850 census.

Jacob and Catherine had at least four children:

Adam Burket, b. 8 Oct 1832, d. 18 Feb 1911
William, b. abt 1841
Catherine A., b. abt 1844
Jacob, b. abt 1846