Cliff, I wish I could take credit for the digging. Actually, another family researcher, Vic Raimey, found the page and passed the info to me. Unfortunately, Lorena's Book is out of publication and I can't find a copy that I can buy. I would very much like to read it. Well it looks like our families are all intertwined. I descend from Jacob's line and agree that evidence points to fact that Christian has to be Jacob's brother and Christopher and Elizabeth are their parents. I plan on posting my family history to the web in the very near future and this will show you that we are joined to the hip, so to speak, now that we are fairly certain that Jacob and Christian were brothers. I guess that makes us some kind of long lost cousins. I also have Bollingers running through our Family History much like yours. I wonder if you could pass on any details that you might have that Otto documented on that Revolutionary War service by Christopher, Christian and Jacob. Also, anything that could pindown the spelling of the last name. As I said I have a copy of Jacob's Will where he actually signed his name, what looks like Sebach. The writer of the will also spelled his name Sebach. On the same Will Christian Sebach signed with an X as a witness. I realize you are not suposed to get bogged down in spellings, but this name of mine has bugged me over the years not knowing just how it was originally spelled. Maybe I will never know. Also, do you have any details on when, where and how Christoper came to Colonial PA? Do you have any information where he came from in Germany?? I believe I have babbled on enough, but you seem to have a lot of the information I have been looking for which is great. I live in Belgium and it is very hard to do any research other than through e-mail. Thanks for your super input. Dick