So, there is a story in my family. In Germany there was a dual and someone was killed. Two Cramm brothers fled Germany to Indonesia. I have no idea when this was, but I'm guessing 1700's. The Indonesian Cramm's began. Some went to Holland later and then to America, some went to Holland and stayed in Holland. I'm wondering who the Cramm brothers were so that I can continue to research the family name in Germany. Any ideas?