The line I have starts with a Ludwig Sawallisch but all I know only that he was from Germany and was married to Friedrike and that they had a son Otto Sawallisch he Otto came to America in 1888 according to the cenus and married a Minnie Rossmann and they had several children including who I refer to as Otto Jr Sawallisch and he fathered Herbert Sawallisch who is my husbands father.. I dont know if Ludwig and Carl were brothers or if My Otto and your Carl were brothers.. I only know of Ludwig from a marriage license of Otto and Minnie..