the Gabriel in our line moved from France to Canada in the Quebec area, I don't know much about everything, all the information I recieve is filtered down from my aunt through my dad to me , so I have his "translation" on everything. according to new findings to us Gabriel was actually a Gingris (don't know the actual spelling) and when his father died his mother remarried taking the Roger name.my grandfather's name was arnold, his father Jules, and his father was Ludger I believe. perhaps we have a relation.