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Read lineage

Posted: 6 May 2011 11:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Is there anyone who has the factual lineage starting with Rebecca Read, father Moses. I have looked on so many sites, and I am totally confused. There is so much contradictive information, I don't know what is real.

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 7 May 2011 1:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Read/Parker/Barton/Hurst
If you receive any NEW information, please let me know. READ is my family line that I've been working on for about 25 years. Like you, the Rebekah/Rebecca Read Parker line has me stumped. I have James and Rebekah both born N.C. and dying in Henry Co., TN., yet anytime I begin checking this line out with other researchers, I get different answers. It's also hard for me to believe that after Rebekah died in 1850, James born ca 1781 would marry a woman (Elizabeth Barton) born in 1830, making him 50 yrs. older than his new bride.
Moses family has another problem maker - his son James Read who married Lydia Hurst. Many different answers when you research him!

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 8 May 2011 10:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
HL, thanks for getting back to me. I tend not to trust the family trees, as they seem to just copy each other. When I go online, I look for books that are written about the family line. Many of them are in the old English, very hard to understand. I am researching for my aunt, who is a Chaffee. Nathaniel Chaffee married Rebeckah Mason, her parents were Samuel Mason and Rebeckah Read, from there I have;
Moses Read and Sarah Lessie
William Read and Lucy Heneage
William Read and Rebecca Menis (her father was a relation to Elizabeth Menis)
William Readand Elizabeth Menis
This where the connection is hard to understand.
William Reade ans Margery Beauchamp, also Anna Bruges
John Reade and ?
Thomas Reade and ?
John Reade and Johanne Carrant
Richard Reade and Elizabeth Winter
Thomas Reade and Catherine Butler
William Reade and Jane Arblasted
John and ?
Thomas Reade and Eliazbeth de la Roche
These books don't give birth dates and only a few death dates. I also reade that it is possible John Reade of Rehoboth, MA, his father was Elizeus Reade of Norfolk. This where I just wanted to give up. I have been using Ancestry.com for over five years and I feel the information is very limited, though they keep making changes to the site and I am still not sure how to access much of it. There are other sites such as Our Royal Family and The Read Family, both give conflicting information. I guess without flying all over the world to see actual documentation, we will never know for sure.

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 29 Oct 2011 6:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
ljsd58,this is what I have:John Reade,#4son of Thomas and Mary(Brocket)Reade;b.1587,East Anglia,d.abt1683,Rebehoth,MA.
m.Sarah Leslie,daughter of William of Blyborough.c1.William,m.Ruth Crooke;c.2 Abigail c.3Ezekiel and c.4 Zachariah,both died in infancy;c.5Samuel b.1635 m.Hopestil Holbrook c.6 John,jr.b.1640d.3-26-1676,m.Racheal ? c.7 Thomas b.1641 m1.Elizabeth Clark,m2.Hannah Perrin, c.8 Moses b.1650 m.Rebecca Fitch
c.9 Mary b.1652;c.10 Elizabeth b.1652;c.11 Daniel b.1655,m. Hanna Peck; c.12 Isriel b.1657,m.Rebecca Ruggles; c.13 Mehitable,m.Abiah Carpenter. Most records indicate all the children were born in Reheboth,MA. I also have all children listed of Daniel and Hannah Peck if needed

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 19 Feb 2014 2:47PM GMT
Classification: Cemetery
Surnames: Read, Lessie, Fitch, Mason, Henage
You may find Sarah Lessie's gravestone, and those of her descendents, of interest...

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=14...

You can click around the links to find that...

John Read married Sarah Lessie and begat Moses Read
Moses Read married Rebecca Fitch and begat Rebecca Read
Samuel Mason married Rebecca Read and begat Mary Mason

...but you may already know this, you may also know that earlier genealogical research in England indicate that the John Read cited above was unlikely to be the son of William Reade and Lucy Henage, and is possibly the son of Elizeus Read (Merchant-adventurer) who was son of John Read (Sheriff of Norfolk) who was son of John Read (Mayor of Norwich) who is the common ancestor of John Read of Rehoboth, and William Read of Weymouth.

PS My line descends from Thomas Read, 2nd son of John Read of Rehoboth, which would make us cousins...10 or 11 times removed :-P

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 2 Apr 2014 11:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Read, Reed
This is interesting. There is an archive.org document that mentions William and Lucy's John never marrying. There is a John Reed and Sarah Lessie in my tree. Many trees here mention William and Lucy being John's parents. My most recent Reed is Hopstill Read 1698. Her ancestry is Samuel Jr 1669, Samuel 1645, then John 1604. My tree is public.

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 7 May 2014 4:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Read Reed
Hello!
I just read your post while trying to understand the confusing origins of John Read. I saw that you descend from Thomas, his son, as do I, so I thought I would say, "hello"!
(My grandfather was Luther A Reed, who died in 1961)
Sincerely,
Victoria Grulich

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 1 Sep 2014 1:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have Hopestill Read and Samuel Read in my family. I descend from Israel and then Eliphalet who came to Canada. Eliphalet married a Sarah Bucklin.

Re: Read lineage

Posted: 27 Mar 2015 4:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Read, Reed
I can understand the confusion. My own research, trying to be painstaking in the process, shows,I think, that you can follow 'ekread' reply (earlier) in this line of inquiries. As with any research online, use this as a guide, not a source; do your own fact finding to confirm.

*John Read married Sarah Lessie and begat Moses Read
Moses Read married Rebecca Fitch and begat Rebecca Read
Samuel Mason married Rebecca Read and begat Mary Mason

I believe 'ekread' to also be correct in stating that the exact parentage of John Read, Sr. is not documented solidly (Henage is speculation, at best). I have found that is is 'ok' to leave blanks--not every fact can be documented, and it is better to leave out what is not fact/sourced than perpetuate errors in the future. There are no answers, ever, in many cases.

My research: John Read (Sr.), the immigrant (1598-1685), was one of the founders of Rehoboth MA. His tombstone says he was born in Lincolnshire, Eng. around 1598. He likely came with Puritan leader John Winthrop as part of the Great Fleet around 1630 to establish Massachusetts Bay Colony. MBC was the first major colony established after Plymouth Colony (1620). Boston was founded by Winthrop shortly after his arrival. The group left England as dissenters, escaping religious persecution by King Charles I, a staunch proponent of the Church of England, with whose teachings Winthrop and his group had serious disagreement. You should read up on Puritan religious beliefs. A helpful article comparing Puritans with Pilgrims, two VERY different groups of thinkers, can be found at:
http://www.sail1620.org/articles/pilgrims-not-puritans

For a period of time, John Read, Sr., lived near Boston, first in Dorcester, then in Braintree (now Quincy) and then in Weymouth MA. Town records seem to document these locations. He was closely associated with another group of believers, dissenters even from the Puritans, led by the Rev. Samuel Newman, a notable Biblical scholar and writer of a popular Concordance of the Bible. (Always helpful to have a map of the area you are researching in front of you, so you can see the proximity of the areas.)

About 1643, Newman and his group of followers (John Read Sr., included), and others, left Weymouth MA and removed to Rehoboth MA to found the town's first church (Congregational). John Read, Sr., is shown as third on the list of original proprietors. Rehoboth was then part of the Plymouth Colony, more southerly from Boston than John Read's first homes in MBC.

My own line, descends from John Read Sr.'s son Thomas Read (1641-1696), to Thomas' son James, to James' son Nathan, to Nathan's son Johnathan (who, by this time, was spelling the name REED in Brookline VT) and, lastly, to Jonathan's younger daughter, Relief Reed (b. 1800), who married Deacon Austen Anderson; they died in Otsego, Michigan).

Re. your line of Moses, several sources (including probate records and marriages) show that Moses married Rebecca Fitch on 6 Dec 1677 in Rehoboth. Since it is not my line, I have little information on Moses' line. His will can be found on Pg. 73 of the
Abstracts of Bristol County, Massachusetts Probate Records, 1687-1745 (A.com) other information can be found on Pg. 32 of that same volume of records. I believe the page numbers are the 'book' page numbers, not the A.com 'image' page numbers.

If you want to learn more about this Read family of Rehoboth, Google the many online book sources of history of the area. History of Rehoboth, etc. Find Vital Records of the town. Rehoboth was burned during King Philip's War. Two of John Sr.'s sons, Thomas and John Jr., participated in this war. John Jr. was killed in Pierce's Battle. Google this interesting war to learn how close Rehoboth was to the action. Lots of great history to be absorbed to understand the beginnings of the Read family in America.

Many of the Read family members (but not all) are buried (findagrave.com) :
Newman Cemetery
East Providence
Providence County
Rhode Island, USA

John Sr. and his wife Sarah (Lessie) are there, along with many other descendants. Obviously, not every family member in succeeding generations remained in Rehoboth. Another caveat: Tombstone information, dates, names, bio's.....all of these should also be read carefully and sourced by yourself. Again, all information on findagrave is also not accurate at all times. Be careful.




Re: Read lineage

Posted: 28 Mar 2015 2:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Read, Reed
I also descend from Thomas Read and his son James.......to his son Nathan......to his son Jonathan in Vermont. You gave good information. Where do you go from Thomas, please.,

I also wonder about a son of John Read, Sr. named William. Maybe the eldest. Have no information on him. Is he a son of John Sr. or a brother?
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