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william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 28 Jun 2002 1:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Apr 2004 7:13AM GMT
Surnames: Pyper, Banks, Cruickshank
I am looking for any decendants of William Pyper and
Janet/Jessie Banks. Their childrens names were
Agnes, Wiliamina, James, George, Margaret, John
Janet/Jessie, Elizabeth and William.

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 9 Jul 2002 2:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
What dates and places are you researching? I am descended from a William PYPER, b. 1828 in Scotland, m. Elizabeth SINCLAIR, and d. 1901 in Montreal, Quebec.

Bryan Perry

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 10 Jul 2002 11:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Apr 2004 7:13AM GMT
Surnames: Pyper
The above William was born in 1813 in Nigg Scotland. I have
check all the other Williams in our family and none match
the one you asked about born 1828. Good luck with your
searching....Regards...Elizabeth

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 8 Feb 2009 9:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pyper, Banks, Cairncross, Walker
I am researching William Pyper (my gggfather) and Janet Banks and their family.

Would be grateful for any further information on the children and descendants to Wm. and Janet Pyper.

My email address is john.pyper@blueyonder.co.uk and I live in Perth, Scotland.

I attach for your information a .ged file with my family tree information.

What I know is based on documents downloaded from Scotlands People website

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

William was born Sep 17 1813, Nigg Parish, Kincardine died aged 76 on May 22 1890, in Old Machar Poor House, Aberdeen. His parents were Wm Pyper a farmer in Faichinches and Agnes Brown.

Janet Banks was born Apr 23 1821 Portobello, (Leith, South Parish) Edinburgh. Her parents were Thomas Banks (Seaman) and Janet Cairncross. (This is based on the baptismal birth record from the Scotlands People web site and the only record to match a location near to Portobello and the birth year.) Janet died between about 1892 and 1900, probably in Aberdeen, although I have found no record of her death under the name of Janet Pyper (ms Banks).

Wm and Janet were married in Nigg Parish Kincardine on Dec 4 1841.

They had the following children all born in Nigg.

Agnes b11 Nov 1843, Williamina b29 Jul 1846, James b6 Oct 1848,
George b29 Dec 1850, Margaret b17 Nov 1852, John b8 Dec 1854

Agnes married William Walker on 31 Dec 1875 at the family home 6 Dee Village, Aberdeen. Her husband lived at 7 Dee Village. Her marriage registration states Wm was aged 25 and she aged 30, but according to her birth date she would have been aged 32. A similar discrepancy of 2 years occurs in the 1871 census. Wm Walker was the informant of the death of Wm Pyper in 1890 and his address is given as 6 Williams Square, Aberdeen.

John's name and date of baptism is left blank in the Nigg Parish Baptismal Record, so he was never baptized in that church. Census records and his death registration details confirm the year of his birth as 1854. He died John Forrest Pyper on Aug 21 1896 at 49 Upperkirkgate, Aberdeen. John is my ggfather.

Wm and Janet's other children were born in Old Machar Aberdeen

Jessie b1861, Elizabeth b 1864 (working back from 1871 cenus), George (2nd of that name) 1868 and William 1870.


In the 1841 Census Janet Banks was a female servant at South Kirkhill, Nigg Parish. In the same census Wm Pyper was an agricultural labourer at Potheugh which is a small area near the south bank of the R. Dee near the current railway bridge at Aberdeen. Her birthplace was given as being outwith the Parish.

In the 1851 census the family were living at Nigg with children Agnes, Williamina, James and George. Janet’s birthplace was given as, Haddington, Tranent

In the 1861 census Wm Pyper was a salmond fisher at Garron Fishing Bothy at Nigg Parish. The rest of the family were not there and I can find no census entry for the rest of the family living elsewhere.

In the 1871 census the family are living a 6 Dee Village, Aberdeen with children Agnes, John, Jessie, Elizabeth, George (2) and William. Agnes was a factory worker and John a blacksmith’s apprentice. Janet’ birthplace is given as Portobello, Duddiston.

In the 1881 census only Wm and Janet Pyper and son William are at 6 Dee Village, Aberdeen. Janet’s birth place is given as Dudiston, Haddington, Scotland.

In the 1891 census Janet Pyper and her grandson Thomas Findlater (aged 9 in 1891 so b1880-1881) were living at 19 Dee Village, Aberdeen.


I note that Elizabeth Liddicote, whose name I have seen on other websites, is related to a George Pyper of the Wm Pyper-Janet Banks marriage. But there were two children named George. I assume that George born in 1950 must have died in infancy and that is why there was a second child called George b1868. If you have

John Forrest Pyper (1854-1896) married Feb 27 1880 in Inverurie, to Ann Bruce (1854-?) and had at least three children. John was an engineer.

John b 1883. In 1901 census occupation was “iron turner”. (no more information at present)

Robert (Bob) b 1885. In 1901 census occupation was “iron dresser”. and emigrated to Canada (no further information)

George (Dod) (my gfather) (1887-1961) married Apr 13 1909 to Ann Adams Petrie (1885-1958). Both born and died Aberdeen. George was a granite mason and is believed to have spent some time in the USA, in Gary Indiana.

George had 3 children

Ann Bruce Pyper (b1909-d1980’s) married Henry Reid 1930 in Aberdeen
George Bruce Pyper (b1916-dc1946) married Margaret Smith Nov 7 1941 in Blackpool. Both born in Aberdeen.
Alexander Wood Pyper (1920-1977) married Flora West Dunbar (1925-2006) Jan 18 1949 in Fraserburgh.


Regards
John F. Pyper

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 28 Feb 2009 5:05PM GMT
Classification: Cemetery
Surnames: Pyper
John Pyper(1854-1896)is buried in St Peter's Cemetery, King Street Aberdeen. Headstone reads "Erected by ANN BRUCE in loving memory of her husband JOHN PYPER who dies 21st August 1896 aged 42 years. Also BELLA and MINNIE died in infancy. Also her daughter ELIZABETH ANN who died 13th April 1917 aged 23 years".

George B Pyper (1887-1961) and Ann Petrie (1885-1958) are both buried in Allanvale Cemetery, Aberdeen. Headstone reads "In loving memory of my dear wife ANN PETRIE PYPER died 9th April 1958 aged 73 years. Also her husband GEORGE B PYPER died 27th March 1961 aged 73 years".

George B Pyper (1916-1948) and Margaret Smith (1920-2000) also buried in Allanvale Cemetery, Aberdeen. Headstone reads "In memory of my dear husband GEORGE BRUCE PYPER died 16th July 1948 aged 32 years and his loving wife MARGARET SMITH died 12th May 2000 aged 80 years. Also their grandson GRAEME PYPER died 2nd July 2004 aged 32 years".

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 28 Feb 2009 7:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: pyper banks wood walker
Thanks very much for this information.
Do you have more information on the Pypers?
I am seeking information about John Pyper's (1854-1896) other sons John b 1883 and Robert b 1885

Regards
John Pyper

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 28 Apr 2010 3:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pyper Banks
This is my family! The second George Pyper b.1868 was actually the illegitimate son of Agnes, the oldest child of William and Janet (I have his birth certificate from Scotland's People). He is my great-great-grandfather.

Check out my tree for what I've discovered so far. The only discrepancy I seem to have is that the death certificate I found for William Pyper in 1890 has his parents listed as James Pyper, and Agnes Pyper (maiden name! A little incestuous?).

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 28 Apr 2010 3:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Jacklyn,

Well what do you know?????
I know that the 2nd George PYPER was Agnes son as found that out many years ago
My g grandfather was the first George PYPER born 1850 to William PYPER and Jessie BANKS
I am in touch with several members of the extended family since I first posted about 10 years ago
I would love to find out more about the other Georges family so if you could email me please on steveliz2 at optusnet dot com dot au
I am no longer on this forum but still a member
Looking forward to hearing from you

Liz

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 28 Apr 2010 4:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Jacklyn,

Can you tell me where you tree is located so I can have a look as no link posted in your message
I have all the details of William PYPER and Jessie/Janet BANKS parents names etc and can give you the info when I hear from you via email
I have a large amount of info about this family as been researching them since 2002
hope to hear from you soon & what a lovely surprise to hear from another family member after so long

Liz

Re: william pyper & Janet/Jessie Banks

Posted: 22 Oct 2010 4:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pyper, Banks, Glynn
Hi everyone,

I'm really excited to come across this message board because i only started researching my family this week, and started with my grandmother, Isabella Wood Adams, because she hardly ever spoke about her family and I knew very little about her background. As it turns out, Janet Jessie Banks is my great great great grandmother too! Isabella was her great granddaughter.

All of a sudden I've gone from knowing very little to finding a great deal of ancestors and would love to hear what you know about how she ended up in Australia when I notice from the census records that she and her husband spent many years in Old Machor.

Anyway, it would be lovely to hear from a distant relative so please do get in touch - perhaps my beginners tree has some new links on it for yours.

Hope to hear from you soon

Andy
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