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James Pyott

Posted: 6 Jan 2002 9:45PM GMT
I am trying to trace ancestors of James Pyott (born Aberdeen Scotland 1839). He married Norah Dorothea McGregor in 1862 in Glasgow. They had at least 6 children: John McGregor Pyott (my great great grandfather), Eliza Stewart Pyott, Jessie Law Pyott, Robert Pyott, William Pyott and Alice McKenzie Pyott. Any info. would be much appreciated. Also, does anyone know if the1871 Scottish census is available online?

Andrea

Re: James Pyott

Posted: 2 May 2002 2:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Jun 2002 5:20AM GMT
Surnames: Pyott
I am looking for Jessie Pyott whose mother ,according to her marriage certificate to James Law, was Alice McKenzie. Seeing as James and Norah had a child named Alice McKenzie Pyott, I am wondering if this is the same family??
Marie

Re: James Pyott

Posted: 6 May 2002 10:48PM GMT
Edited: 29 Nov 2004 7:53PM GMT
Hi Marie

I just saw your message today and am certain we have the same family here. It's great to finally link up with someone who is tracing the same line. What is your connection to Jessie Pyott? From James Pyott (my g-g-g-grandfather) and Norah McGregor's marriage cert., I had also discovered that James' mother was Alice McKenzie Pyott. I have been thinking for the past few months that James must have had a sister called Jessie Pyott, as James and Norah called one of their children Jessie Law Pyott (I don't know if this was common to many families of the time, but certainly many of my Pyott ancestors were in the habit of naming their children after aunts' maiden and married names which makes tracing them so much easier). So your Jessie must be my James' sister! It really is great that the mariage cert. you have confirms what I had thought. I'm hoping to order Alice McKenzie's death cert. this week, so if you like I'll pass on any information to you that I glean from that. I know she was married to William Pyott (a Flaxdresser) in March 1829, and she lived at 19 Main St., Barony, Glasgow in 1862(from James and Norah's marriage cert.), and she was still at the same address in 1881 (from the census records). She was born in 1810 in Aberdeen and died 1887 in Glasgow. Working back from census and death records, her son James appears to have been born in 1839 in Aberdeen and died in 1915 in Glasgow. There would also appear to have been 3 daughters (Jessie, Alice and Christina). What date do you have for Jessie's birth from the marriage cert?

Interestingly, this is not the only Pyott-Law marriage in my family. Apart from my g-g-g-grandfather's sister Jessie Pyott marrying James Law in 1867, my grandmother Helen Pyott married Hugh Law in the 1930's so my mother's maiden name was Law.

Hope to hear from you (I live in the Scottish Highlands, where are you based?) I have lists of births, deaths and marriages of all Pyotts in Scotland from around this time if they are of any help to you, and some census household records, but there are gaps (for instance Alice and William Pyott do not appear to have registered their childrens' births). Perhaps we can work out how we are related?!

Bye for now

Andrea

Re: James Pyott

Posted: 10 May 2002 9:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Jun 2002 5:20AM GMT
Hello Andrea
We are definitely on the same family tree. In actual fact it is my husband's line but I am the family historian. Jessie Pyott is his g-g-grandmother on his mother's side.
I have had great difficulty finding details of her birth, but from census dates and her marriage certificate, she was born c1842. I have a copy of Jame's and Jessie's marriage certificate which I can send to you if you would like a copy.

Jessie and James Law had three children - Robert (born 1870), Alice McKenzie (born 1872) and Catherine Henderson (born 1874). I found a geneology books which described Scottish family naming traditions - they named the 1st boy after his father's father; the 2nd after his mother's father; and the 3rd after his father. In the case of the girls, the 1st was named after her mother's mother; the 2nd after the father's mother and the 3rd after her mother. They then used uncles and aunties etc. This made it easy when I saw the Alice McKenzie mentioned.

I have used the IGI and Scotsorigin on-line to gain most of my information. I had difficulty finding details about the marriage of William Pyott and Alice. The only one mentioned on the IGI is to an Elspet McKenzie in March 1829 - this date tallies with the information you have, so this must be the one.

At the risk of asking "for everything you have", I would love to see what information you do have. Robert Law (born 1870 in Scotland) came to Australia - I can give you some information on the families which grew here.

Hope to hear from you soon
Bye for now
Marie
P.S. I live in Perth, Western Australia.

Re: James Pyott

Posted: 19 May 2002 11:02PM GMT
Hi Marie

I replied to your last message via your e-mail address. I've since since made some more headway you might be interested in. All Pyotts in the 1891 and 1901 census for Lanark are ancestors of ours. William Pyott and Elspet McKenzie had at least 7 children:- SARAHANN PYOTT (died 1911 age 80). She must have been William and Elspet's daughter as her niece Sarahann MCKENZIE Pyott lived with her in Glasgow in 1891. She had at least one son and 2 daughters (Charles, Christina and Jessie on 1891 census). ELSIE (ALICE) PYOTT born 1847 Aberdeen, died 1896 Glasgow (she married William Williamson and Elspet (also known as Alice) lived with them in 1881). JAMES MCKENZIE PYOTT (my ggg-grandfather), born about 1839 Aberdeen died 1915 Glasgow, married Norah McGregor and had 10 children; when Norah died he married Janet McDonald. JESSIE PYOTT as you know, but I think she and James Law had 4 children - there was also a Elizabeth Law born 11/10/1873 according to IGI. ELIZABETH PYOTT married Wiliam Stewart in 1851 (she must have been James and Jessie's sister as James and Norah named one of their children Eliza Stewart Pyott after her). WILLIAM PYOTT born about 1834 died 1856 Aberdeen. CHRISTINA PYOTT married Thomas McNaught 1864 Glasgow. (Again James and Norah named one of their children after her - Christina McNaught Pyott). They also named a child after your Jessie Law - they called her Jessie Law Pyott, and like your Alice McKenzie Law they had an Alice McKenzie Pyott after the grandmother.
I hope am putting this down clearly enough for you - it's taken me months to get to grips with it myself.

James and Norah also had a son John McGregor Pyott (my g-g-grandfather) born 1865 Glasgow. He married Elizabeth Gilmour and they had at least 4 children: Annie Gilmour Pyott born 1888 Glasgow; Elizabeth Gilmour Pyott, Robert Pyott and James Pyott (my g-grandfather). James married Martha McAuley and they had 8 children, one of them being Helen Kirkpatrick Pyott (my gran). She married Hugh Law (there's that Pyott-Law connection again! and they had 4 daughters one of which was my mother Helen born 1838 Glasgow. We still have strong connections with Glasgow and keep in touch with the surviving children of James and Martha Pyott and their children.

I'm hoping to order William and Elspet's marriage certificate soon, which will tell us who William's parents were, and also Kenneth McKenzie and Helen Thomson's marriage certificate which would give their birthplaces and parents' names.

Apart from Elspet (Alice) Mckenzie born 4/9/1808 Aberdeen, Kenneth and Helen also had at least 4 other children: Isobel born 1806 Aberdeen, John born 1805, Barbara born 1819 and William born 1905 Aberdeen.

I would love a copy of Jessie and James' marriage cert and any other Pyott info., and I will scan and send you the certs/census images I have if you like. James and Jessie Law lived at 3 Westmoreland Street on one of the censuses, but I can't remember which one and you probably have that information already.

I can also give you more recent Pyott history from Glasgow that isn't obtainable on the web, and would be very interested to hear about the families that have sprung from your line.

I tried using the Genweb at IGI the other night and it seems great the way it automatically puts all the names into a family tree for you, but I must be doing something wrong as it wasn't putting siblings on the same tree but creating separate branches for them. Do you know how to create files properly with it?

Hope to hear from you

Andi.

Pyott

Posted: 31 Jan 2004 9:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pyott, Blackie, Whyte, Clarke, Clark, Mackenzie, Pandreich, Arnot
I am connected to the Pyott line from Angus area. I have a book inscribed in 1897 to my grandmother (Aimee Blackie) from Grandma Pyott. Her parents were Alexander Blackie b 1858 in Dundee and Catherine Mackenzie Clarke b 1860 in Inverness and immigrated to the U.S. in the 1880's. Alexander's parents were Alexander Blackie b 1819 in Brechin who married (1) Isabella Pandreich and (2) Catherine Rett Whyte (my line) b 1824 in Coupar Angus. They died in Chicago, Illinois.

Catherine R. Whyte's had a brother William Whyte b 1822 in Coupar Angus who married in 1851a Ann Keith Gilbert b 1830 in Forfar. When William died in 1900 in Coupar Angus
David Pyott was listed as the informant on the death registration and it indicated he was a brother-in-law and lived in Chicago, Illinois.

Do you have any Pyott info that may connect with the above?

Re: James Pyott

pyott (View posts)
Posted: 29 Aug 2005 8:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
my grandfather john pyott born dundee about 1860.went to south africa ,founded biscuit factory 1885.married annie mahaffey born belfast .8 children.i am last male grandson .two cousins killed i spitfires.father george ernest went to georgewatsons college 1910 then doctor edinb urgh university. any interest?
richard john pyott

Re: James Pyott

Posted: 17 Feb 2007 11:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi I found your interesting discussion about PYOTT's. I am descended from Elizabeth PYOTT 1834 and William STEWART. William and Elizabeth emmigrated to Dunedin, New Zealand where I live. William and Elizabeth had 12 children the eldest Alice McKenzie STEWART b 1851 in Glasgow was my great grandmother.

Wendy
Dunedin
New Zealand

Re: James Pyott

Posted: 17 Feb 2007 2:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Yes this is the same tree! Unfortunately I don't have access to my paper files at present as they are up the loft I think - it's been some time since I did any work on my tree as I have been so busy!!! However, you may know that it was customary to name the eldest daughter after the maternal grandmother - hence your's is called Alice McKenzie Stewart. Her mother Elizabeth was the sister of my direct ancestor James McKenzie Pyott (my great great great grandfather). It's great to hear from you! I've been in touch with relatives in Australia but your first from New Zealand. Kind regards and hope to speak again, Andrea.

Re: James Pyott

Posted: 18 Feb 2007 2:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pyott
Hi Wendy - good to hear from you.
I am following the line of Jessie Pyott (sister of James McKenzie and Elizabeth)
Jessie married James Law in 1867 - their eldest child Robert came to Australia and died in Victoria in 1930. This is my husband's line, but I am keen to hear about the Pyott family.
Marie
Perth
Western Australia
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