Original nationality of Pye's
My grandfather, Francis (Frank) Pye as born incounty Rosscommon year 1860 in what is now called "Southern Ireland." In 1880 he moved to Philadelphia, UISA, married and had 11 children. He died in 1900. Family stories state that the Pye's were not Irish, but English, having moved to Ireland in the 17th or 18th century. Lately I have seen reports that the name Pye is Scottish. Does anyone have definite information of the family's origins etc. Thank you!
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My father's mother was a Pye and they were from Essex, England. There are more Pye's in East Anglia (Essex, Suffolk, Norfolk and Cambridgeshire), than other parts of the UK.
Brian
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I recently became a member of Ancestry although I am not new to genealogy. I just fopund your earlier posting. According to my late brother, who spent much of his leisure in genealogical research, the name Pye was from Ap Hugh, meaning son of Hugh. The family arrived with William the Conqueror and was given land near the Welsh border. In time they came to speak Welsh and follow many Welsh customs such as the prefix AP used to denote paternity. The Ap Hugh, thought to have been pronounced "aphay" eventually became both Pye and Opie, both families from the same origins. Among the fascinating ancestors of the family was my favorite, John Pye O'The Mynde 1444-1550. His grave stone said he was 106 years truly. He had 43 children by 3 wives, and it is said, over 20 by "less formal arrangements"! Mynde Hall, the family seat is still standing although empty and in need of much repair. I will be happy to send you further information on these folks if you want to send your snail mail address. Regards, Willette Pye Wood
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Willette, I just read your email about the Pye family origins and found it fascinating. My grandfather was from New Zealand, but his family (I'm certain) came from Britain. I would love to more about the family, if you don't mind. Thanks, Miriam Victoria Pye
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You talk aboutJohn Pye O'The Mynde 1444-1550.He has an ancestor, Walter Pye Lord of Sadlebow, living in 1433. I was wondering if this Sadlebow is in Hereford or Sadlebow in Norfolk which is also apparently a stronghold of the Pye family. You also say that Mynde Hall is empty, but we understand that the present owner has spent a vast amount of money and is bringing it back to it's former state. However, not open to the public. More details if required on this. I am researching the Pye family of Lancashire and would appreciate any information that you might have, particularly of Roger Pye of Aughton.
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Hi Denis, I could not be more pleased to hear that Mynde Hall is being restored. It is a beautiful place, 'tho in need of much work the last time any of the family saw it. My late brother considered buying it in 1969, but could never work out the logistics, considering the amount of work(and Money) he would have had to do/spend to make it again livable.W would be delighted to hear about the renovations. I wonder if the Walter you mention was the grandfather of John Pye O' The Mynde? Walter seemed to be a favorite name among the Pyes. I have the Walter of Sadlebow married to Elizabeth Scudamore. They were the parents of John Tregos Pye, John Jenkin Pye and Walter Pye III, among others I have no names for. John Tregos was the father of John Pye O'The Mynde.To the best of my knowledge, Sadlebow was in Hereford and was a dower house for the family. This is, however what I recall my late brother told me and I may not have the right of it. I fear I have NO information on the Roger of Aughton. I would be happy to share whatever I have should you find a use for it. Regards, Willette
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Hello Willette. Thank you for the information on Walter Pye, it confirms my thoughts on the subject. However, there is another Walter Pye, the great, great, grandfather of John Tregos Pye, and he was alive in 1433. This Walter was married to Elizabeth Barry as you may know. His son was Thomas Pye of Sadlebow who married Jane Bromwich. We are still looking for a connection between Hereford and Lancashire Pyes, and would appreciate any info you may come across. Regards. Denis.
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Hi Denis...Yes and that Walter was the son of John, ap Hugh of Sadlebow, aka John Pye de Kilpeck. His father was Hugh Fitz William, Fitz Norman, de Kilpeck 1075-6 to 1171 who was married to Meirig ap Griffin, a Welsh woman said to be a Welsh Princess. His father was William Fitz Norman de Mara alive in 1060 and his mother was Mabilia De Goz alive in 1064. As you likely know their origins are Norman and the family came from the village of Mara in Normandy. (I have used the complex forms of their names in order to keep them straight since they, like many others of the time, use the same names over and over.) Write Anytime. YOu can reach me at the above e-mail address as well as on this board. I am always happy to share Regards, Willette
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Hi Willette - I just came across your fascinating Pye name origins - your knowledge appears to be quite extensive and was wondering if you have a Thomas Pye born abt. 1748 in Exeter, Devonshire, England died abt.1811, he married Appolonia Elizabeth Hawbolt(var.spellings) on Nov. 10, 1785 in St.Pauls Halifax (Nova Scotia, Canada). I am descended though his son Joseph Bowden Pye b.June 18,1897 & married to Mary Fleming . I'm sure you must be inundated but anything you can offer would be greatly appreciated. my email address is lpyeface@yahoo.ca. Lea Young
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Re: Original nationality of Pye's
Hello Albert I've just read your post stating the Pye's moved to Ireland. I have tried to find an answer as to when they did that, as my Pye's are Irish and we know they are connected to the Herefordshire ancestors. Also, Roscommon is not far from Co. Leitrim and Sligo where my family are living. Look forward to a reply Best wishes
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