Seeking information regarding William Charles PYE,b.25.02.1808 who married Catherine SMITH. Parents believed to be Henry PYE and wife Elizabeth ?? Any info on these please forward and any further info on their ancestry would be appreciated. Believed to be tied to Middlesex, London,U.K. Am trying to establish which branch of the greater PYE FAMILY they are descended from. W.C. is my great grandfather on the paternal side of my family
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Hello Donald, We've corresponded before - I thank you for the info on my NZ PYEs. Sorry, I haven't got anything for you on this Middlesex branch of the PYEs but I just thought I'd let you know that my PYE line seems to have some connection with London (close to Middlesex) even though they seem to be mostly rooted in Edinburgh. My GG-grandfather was George PYE, born around 1831 in London. This was from at least 2 censuses. His father was Robert PYE and his mother was Anne MCGREGOR; they married in 1826 in Edinburgh. How and why they were in London, I don't know. Robert PYE may have had ancestors there. George Pye married and had children in Edinburgh and I believe he and many of his children later emigrated to Australia and New Zealand. Robert PYE was a cabinet maker by trade but George, his son, went into clay tobacco pipe making and I believe other members of the family may have been tobacconists. There are only two siblings of George PYE that I know of at the moment - Harriet Primrose PYE and Henry Weston PYE. (Even these sibling connections have not been proven to my satisfaction.) I don't know for sure where they were born but other researchers on my line say they were both born in Edinburgh. So, I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who thinks they might be related to my line and/or who knows of PYEs who were involved in tobacco pipe making or who were tobacconists. I'd also be interested in knowing of any PYE/PRIMROSE connections.
Chris Green
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Pye family history - William Charles Pye
Message for Donald Charles Pye I don't know if there's any connection, but my gg grandmother was Elizabeth PYE, born about 1822 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex (This info. from 1851 census). She married my gg grandfather, George PESCOD, in 1844 in Hackney,Middlesex, and her father's name was William PYE who was a weaver (I think, marriage cert. difficult to read). Their children were: James b. 1849, Elizabeth b. 1851, Mary b. 1854, Emma b. 1857 (my g grandmother), George b. 1859.
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William Charles & ancestors.
Glenda, Thank you for your response to my query. Alas, I do not think there is a connection though it would appear as if Clerkenwell does figure in our history. W.C. was my Great Grandfather and the family was involved in the Surgical/Mathematical/Surveying and Optical Instrument making business. But I am stuck there, nowhere can I find a clue to these people in the 1700 - 1800 period. Thanks again - Donald Charles PYE.
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Glenda, I've just started tracing back through my father's family and have found that it includes a William PYE who was also a weaver and probably lived in North London. This I found from the marriage certificate (Paddington, Sept. 21, 1872) of William's son, Thomas Beal PYE (my great-grandfather). I don't know how old either of them were on this date, but it seems likely that your gg grandmother Elizabeth was a contemporary of my gg grandfather William. Do you know if she had any siblings?
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Re: Pye family history - William Charles Pye
Hello Name is Ian I wonder if you have amongst your PYE / PESCOD connections and URWINs / BATLEYs
My connections with the PESCOD stems from a John James Pescod who married Alice Jane STEPHENSON and later Margaret Helen MILNE.
John James (P) (B 1841 / 1923) had a brother George (No details) Their father was William PESCOD = Margaret MARSHALL
The PYE connection goes from a daughter of JOHN JAMES (P) Margaret Anne (P) who married Charlesa SMALLHORN - Their subsequent daughter was Alice SMALLHORN who married John PYE (They emigrated to OZ). Any connections ?? pl contact off list TIA Regards Ian
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Hi there don't know if this will help. My line is from Thomas Pye born 1748 in Exeter, Devonshire,England. Two of his sons are Henry born abt.1786 married Sarah Jewers, & Charles born April 7, 1788. The names William, Charles & Henry appear frequently as descendants of this line and I thought perhaps Henry may have been Thomas's brother? Thomas emigrated to Canada & married Appolonia Elizabeth Hawbolt. Unfortunately this is as far back as I have at present.
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Paul - I am a Honea(Honey), father's side and Pye on mother's side. I pulled up your website and found the Pye coat-of-arms that you had displayed. I happened to have a Honea coat-of-arms (authenticity?) wall plaque and found an interesting relation between the two. Both display three (3) scallop shells, hinges at the top, as the principal motif of the design. For the Pye C of A, they are arranged horizontally. For the Honea C of A, they are arranged in an inverted triangle. Would you, or any other researchers, have knowledge of the significance of the three scallop shells as used in C of A design. Your comments appreciated. FYI, my PYE family located principally in southeast U.S.A. in mid-1700s.
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Hello Don,
The significance of the three scallop shells for the Pye and Honea(Honey) coat-of-arms may come from a marriage. You would need to ask someone about that at one coat-of-arms web sites.
This is just my opinion: If there is a coat-of-arms for a Pye family and a coat-of-arms a Honea(Honey) family and a marriage between the two families (children of the two families) a new coat-of-arms is designed for the married couple with parts of of both families coat-of-arms. So you may need to look for another coat-of-arms for the Honea(Honey) family.
I hope this helps you.
Paul
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