Punch family: Cork to Australia
I am looking for other people who are researching the Punch family from County Cork, and their many descendants in New South Wales, Australia. I am a descendant of John Punch who arrived in Australia on board the David McIver with his family in 1856, but he came to join other members of his family who were already here, & still others followed in the years after. John's brother Peter was already here, with his wife Catherine (nee Hurley). Peter & Catherine appear to have been here since at least 1839 (various birth records appear for children born to Peter & Catherine), but I haven't been able to identify their arrival ship. I've also found a convict named John Punch from Cork who was aged 22 when he was transported in 1836 aboard the Earl Grey. This John Punch was arrested & transported with Patrick Hurley aged 37 - the same surname as Peter's wife Catherine. That seems fairly coincidental & I'm thinking all these individuals are related. I'd love to hear from anyone who have come across connections to my Punches that might be relevant. Any information would be much appreciated. Garrett Prestage
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I am a descendant of a Captain John Punch, who sailed over to Australia from Cork. He married a Mary Hinchy in Sydney in 1858. If you think this is the same John Punch please let me know.
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Hi Louise
Your John is a different one to mine. I was aware of your John as he was a mariner & my John's family had a boat shed at Cowpers Wharf in Woolloomooloo. I have been trying to find if there was a connection but so far no luck. Both families seem to have used the names John & Thomas quite often which adds to the confusion (but might also be an indication of a family connection). If you know whether your John had an uncle named Michael, Peter or John, perhaps we can establish the connection.
Garrett Prestage
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Since I originally posted this message I have learnt that Patrick Hurley was married to Margaret Punch (& they had at least 6 children before he was arrested & transported). So, these two families were clearly very closely connected. Margaret & the children joined Patrick Hurley in Australia in 1849, sailing on the Panama.
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Hi Garrat
Have you worked out where we are tied in yet? I am still searching
Louise
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Hi It was wonderful reading your message, I was wondering if any other members of the Punch family came out along with Peter and Michael.
I am a decended of the Peter Punch you are talking about. Peter and his wife Catherine came out to Australia with two of their children, Nicholas and Edward. Peter's brother Michael, I believe also joined him. They arrived on the 31 December 1837 on the Alfred.
A good book from the library you might want to look at is called Debrett Irish family or Burkes Irish family. It has the Punch family tree.
I have researched from Peter Punch down and would love to swap notes.
Luisa
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Dear Luisa I tried sending a reply direct to you with no success. I am in touch with several other Punch descendants and with a group of people researching the families from the villages just south of the City of Cork in Ireland. They have a wealth of information about the area, the records, the history & the culture. In fact, it was they who directed me to Burkes Irish Families & the fact that our Punches are recorded there. In fact, your Peter arrived on the Alfred with his brother Michael (& Michael's wife, Mary Saunders, & their children). Peter & Michael's brother, my John, arrived in 1856 on the David McIver, but their other brother, James also arrived about that time, though I haven't as yet found his records. I can send you some detailed records if you send me your email address. I am very keen to uncover further information about the lives of our ancestors, apart from just dates & connections. Where and how they lived, stories, photos, etc. If you're aware of anything or have some photos of Peter & Catherine or their children I'd be very keen to know about it. I have copies of both their wills. The other thing I'm very keen to learn about is the relationship between Catherine's brother Patrick & the John Punch he was arrested with in Ireland & then transported with, & Patrick's wife Margaret Punch, & the rest of our Punches. They were obviously connected but I haven't quite figured it out yet. Garrett
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My connection to the Punch (Poyntz) family also traces back to Cork, and my late cousin also had researched the Burkes Peerage line back to 15th century. My connection was a John Punch who was born around 1780-1790 and married twice, first in 1810 to Elizabeth Faber, then in 1818 to Amelia Barter formerly Bond. Children from first marriage John 1811, Jane (Fennell) 1813 Phillip, 1815, Second Marriage Margaret 1819, Isabella Day 1821, Helena Vernon, 1824 and Amelia Henrietta 1827. John Punch died in Cork around 1834 and His wife Amelia migrated to Australia (Sydney) in 1838 with some of the children, and her son in law Thomas Clancy, my g.g.grandfather. I don't know much about John Punch other than that. Maybe we are connected but don't know.
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I am also a descendant of John Punch and Mary Hinchy, by their son William. Are you interested in sharing information.
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Hi Sharon
Yes I would be interested in sharing info. Please contact me to organise exchanging info.
Louise
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