hello shelly, my name is vicki kutz ivey. i belive i my have the same family you are talking about. edmond and lucy pracy had john william pracy who had george thomas pracy who had elizabeth pracy who marries charles wesley symonds who had ida alene symonds who married sherard leonidas dukes who had ida leonora dukes who married william jacob kutz who is my grandparents. i would be interested to know if this is your line also. vki