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1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 29 Sep 2010 7:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pool
Family oral tradition - 1st Pool's in America.
If you are related to any of the following, we'd really appricate hearing any oral traditions about your founding families in America.
Families of James Pool ( b 1756 VA), John Pool (b 1758 SC) abd Nicholas Pool ( b 1765 GA) have a basically consistent oral tradition on the first POOL in thier line. If anyone in these lines or the Wm Mitchell Pool (b 1840 Arkansas), George Washington Pool ( b 1814 Arkansas), Wm J Pool (b 182 TN), or Wm T Pool ( b 1805 KY)

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 19 Apr 2014 6:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am ggggGrandson of John Pool, born 1758 SC, died 10/1/1839 Sumpter Co. Alabama. I am looking for grave site in Alabama. Anyone have info on this?

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 21 Apr 2014 2:38AM GMT
Classification: Biography
I am gggggrandson of Walter Pool Sc and was cousin of John Pool One of my relative said that we came from England from a Cardinal Pole who was imprisoned when they change to the church of England. his family was put to death but he escaped and changed his name to Poole
He had a son who came to America. He was borned in 1700

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 21 Apr 2014 9:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Jack
I haven't studied your John Pool line -- but my James Pool was very likely a close cousin ( or just possibly even a brother). Best current evidence points to these lines descending from the ECC VA line of Poole's -- possibly going back to David Poole in the early 1600's.

On the gravesite of your John Pool ...I'm not sure, I've seen conflicting information. There is a photo of a grave marker on ancestry.com--- but I do not know if it is the original or a more recent replacement.. A short bio by F S Mosley ( 1944) says he " died in 1840 at Yourk Ala, and is buried near same".

Audrey Pool ( who I think is the most through genealogist studying this line) --- if my notes are correct, has the death as 1 Oct 1839 in York, Sumpter, Alabama. Audrey does not have a web site, but at one time, Henry Poole's web site contained her information (although Henry's is an entireley different line of Pooles)

I know there are records of your John Pool with the DAR.

John Pool is also mentioned in a family history written by R F Pool Sr in Sept 1930 --however at least parts of this bio are in question (especially the referende to an Adam Pool)

hope this helps
Bill Pool

PS if you have done any work on John's ancestors, I'd be very interested in comparing notes... our common ancestor should not be many generations earlier than your John -- likely a common grandfather.

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 21 Apr 2014 9:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Apr 2014 9:54PM GMT
Surnames: Pool Poole Pole
That's a really interesting story! Is your Walter Pool a cousin of the John Pool that was born in SC in about 1758?
I know part about Cardinal Pole is historical fact (as is the part about Margaret Pole née Plantagenet) as a claimant to the throne) .... Alas, as far as I can find, the part about surviving relatives (with two Poole brothers coming to America ) doesn't seem to have any solid documentation / confirmation. From what I've read. the King did a pretty "good" job of killing off the possible Pole / Poole Plantagenet claimants to the throne ( however, some indeed could have escaped to Ireland as the story goes).

the fact that the John Pool line ( 1758 Edgefield SC) is Y chromosome haplogroup G gives some credence to those who argue that the first of that line of Poole may have been French / Spainish heritage Hugueots who fled to England from Langedoc in southern France ( as I understand it, that portion of France was a mixed Spainish and French heritage -- with a distinct language and culture.

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 23 Apr 2014 3:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
The tree I have show walter's dad being Adam then William who also had William jr who had John

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 25 Apr 2014 11:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ronald,
I have heard references to an Adam Pool or Poole but nothing concrete. My confirmed tree goes back from my gggrandfather, Thomas Franklin Pool who came to Texas in the early 1850s. He was born in Edgefield District, SC and moved to Sumter Co., Alabama. His father John died there in 1840, and his grandfather William (probably a William, Jr.) died there in 1839. Everything I have seen before that is mostly an educated guess. I am planning a trip next month to Sumter Co. and hope to find the graves there.

Jack

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 26 Apr 2014 12:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Bill,
I have a lot of Audrey's research and we are the same line.
I have heard references to an Adam Pool or Poole but nothing concrete. My confirmed tree goes back from my gggrandfather, Thomas Franklin Pool who came to Texas in the early 1850s. He was born in Edgefield District, SC in 1815 and moved to Sumter Co., Alabama. His father John, b. 1758, died there in 1840, and his grandfather William (probably a William, Jr.) died there in 1839. Everything I have seen before that is mostly an educated guess. I am planning a trip next month to Sumter Co. and hope to find the graves there.

We have also had the DNA testing, but I haven't really had time to evaluate the results yet.

By the way, my dad, also named Bill, is 86.

Jack

Jack

Jack

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 28 Apr 2014 4:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
I will be most interested in your DNA results (as will Audrey and an number of others) Not only will it confirm that we are "cousins" but it will also give a prediction on how far back we go to a common ancestor..... if you want to send me a copy of your results, my email is wtpool@charter.net .... I'd be happy to send you mine. I am one of the very few in my group that has had a deep clade analysis.-- if our Y chromosome markers are a match, then my deep clade results will apply equally to you.

I don't know what company you tested with, but reguardless -- you can input your results at Ysearch.org with a free account. Some companies (e'g. Familytreedna) will upload the info for you == but in any case it's a few minutes work ... and it should give you a number of matches.

Also -- did they give you your Haplogroup. Audrey's husband Ray, and I are haplogroup G1. If you are also haplogroup G1 ==you are "proven" a cousin,

Bill
PS: my father, also named Bill, would be 113 if he were alive today
PS 2, I'd be interested in exchanging family trees --- mine is in two parts --- I'm rock solid on the last 6 generations, then I have a "speculative section" that is based on matches with people who believe that their line of Pool / Poole is the ECC VA line.; I believe Audrey thinks this is possible, but the older data (going back to 1600) is more speculative that she is comfortable with. A lady named Donna Cruise is responsible for pulling a lot of this early information together -- and I have helped a bit with some additional documentation that I have found.

Re: 1st Pool's in America: family stories; Nicholas,James, John,& Wm Pool

Posted: 15 May 2014 8:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
My 4th grandfather Walter Pool born in Virginia lived in Edgefield district SC where my 3rd grandfather Beverly Pool was born. They were in Georgia for a short while and ending up in Pecan Point Texas in 1816. One of the first White Settlers in Texas (Mexico).
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