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Heiki and Poika families where are you???

Heiki and Poika families where are you???

Posted: 7 Apr 2005 5:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi there..i have just recently found the translations to my g grandfather who was Finnish and was born in Finland.

in Norse it is Andreas Vilhelm Henriksen.
IN Finnish it is Antti/Antero Vilhelm Heiki/Henrikin Poika

born in Mandaringet Karunki in 1846.

Any connections with you?

Let me know.
yours, Malodie Anderson

Re: Heiki and Poika families where are you???

Matti Kujala (View posts)
Posted: 7 Apr 2005 7:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hei Malodie,
I am no relation but I would like to point out a few things for you. You are correct in saying that Andreas Vilhelm Henrikssen is the Norwegian way of writing your ggf name, however in Finnish there is a mistake. While Antti does equal Antero and Vilhelm is the same Heiki/Henrikin Poika is incorrect. This is a patronymic (genitive father's name) and is not considered a middle name. There are no middle names in Finnish only given names and in the earlier days along with a patronymic. Henrikssen is a Norwegian patronymic = son of Henrik. Swedish would be Henriksson. In Finnish Heikki = Henrik/Henry. To make it in genitive form (possessive), it gets complicated to explain, but one "k" is dropped and an "-in" is added. So you get Heikin = of Heikki's. Poika = son/boy. So the patronymic is Heikinpoika or Henrikinpoika. Poika is not a surname! Many times a patronymic found its way into becoming a surname, which is the case for many immigrants from Scandinavia and Finland.
Karunki now belongs to Tornio since about 1973. There is a Karungi straight across on the Swedish side. I do not know what this Mandaringet is but it is not Finnish. Perhaps it is Saamish the language of the Laplanders. Do you know if your ggf spoke Finnish or Swedish. He could have been a Swede-Finn (Finlandssvenka).
I looked in the Karunki birth records for 1846 and the only thing I found was: born: 30.11.1846 baptized: 4.12.1846 father: Abram Palo mother: Ewa Caisa Olofsdr son: Petter Anders
BUT this does not fit the description of your ggf because the patronymic would have been Abramsson/Abrahamsson in Swedish and in Finnish Abrahaminpoika/Aaponpoika/Abraminpoika.

Best regards,
Matti Kujala
Espoo, Finland
(formerly of Red Lodge, Montana)
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