Elizabeth Pohle and Peter Scherrer
My maternal gt gt grandmother Elizabeth Pohle married Peter Scherrer. I don't know where he or she came from in Germany, but they lived in NYC in the middle to late 1800's , and had children by the names of Phillip, Mary , George, Evangeline, Ann, Edward, and William. He was a blacksmith and he and some brothers, one named Adam Scherrer, developed a funeral business in NYC. I have seen three variation on Elizabeth's last name, but this one came off of her daughters first marraige certificate and most be the most reliable. There are so few people with this name, some us them on this site must be related. Where does this name come from, if it is so uncommon?
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Re: Elizabeth Pohle and Peter Scherrer
Hi Susan.
I was told by my grandmother that most (if not all) of the Pohle's are related. Most of the Pohle's in Germany lived in Westphalia and were Lutheran.
As far as I know, those who immigrated to the U.S. came into New York port (possibly Ellis Island site). I have 2 conflicting dates of immigration 1 states in 1881 and the other in 1884 (I do not know which is correct date). Unfortunately, I have been unable to get more than 3 generations for the sirname of Pohle. Nor do I have a list of brothers and sisters of any of my Pohle's.
The following is what I have found/discovered so far:
Anna (Mary) Catharine Marie Pohle was my Great Grandmother (on my mother's mother's side) who married Carl (Charles) Augustus Ludewig (Ludwig) Gestring. Anna's parents were Johann Heinrich Pohle and Anna (Anne) Maria Ilsabein Baumeier. Johann's parents were Casper Heinrich Pohle and Anna Catherine Ilsabein Heidemeier. (I do have birthdates, marriage dates for 2 generations.)
My great grandparents came to the U.S. after the Franco-Prussian war (which was fought between July 19, 1870 and May 10, 1871). They migrated to Indiana in 1881 and then to Nebraska about 1893.
The above is all I have discovered, thusfar, for my family tree. I do understand that a sister (name unknown) of my great grandmother's did also come to the U.S.
I have not discovered, as yet, the origin of the Pohle sirname.
I had lost most of my information in a fire in 1996 and had to start from "scratch". Unfortunately, my grandmother had passed away in 1981, so I have had to rely on memory, my mother's sketchy memory through interview, and discovery in U.S. Census' and other information on the internet. I have not discovered a lot of information on the sirname Pohle. I do have a photograph of my great grandparents that my mother had.
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This is very important information- all from Westphalia and related. Of course, some could have moved, but that really helps alot to find connections between people. So far I don't even know for sure what year she died in NYC, because it happened between census records, I think. Thankyou for your information. I would have replied sooner, but there seems to be a new system- I had to get a user name and password to reply- what a pain in the neck Ancestry is creating for everyone. You can't go anyplace to do genealogy on the net without haveing to go through Ancestry- I live where they have their offices and would like to tell them my thoughts- they are buying up everyone- just my personal gripe. Merry Christmas, and may we find our Westphalian ancestors- Sue
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Re: Elizabeth Pohle and Peter Scherrer
Indeed Pohle is an unusual name I also have it in my family--My Pohle--Fredrick or Fredrich was born 5/30/1832 in Scheswig Holstein, Germany(orginally Prussia) and died 1/12/1905 in Iowa. Buried in Boone Iowa. Married to Willimena or Wilimenia Matz or Minnie Mott. In 1880 Census at age 47- Had the following children--Willimenia, Alvina, Ida, Lousia, Fredrick, William and Charley. Member of G.A.R.-Grand Army of the Republic. The children changed the spelling to Pohl.A lot of the children were born in Wisconsin-----Do you have any information on their immigration--I have not found any info--First child was born 1862-1864 here in Wisconsin.
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There has been very little activity on the Pohle surname recently, but am glad to see some now, as it is the name I inherited. My great-grandfather Hermann Pohle, b. ca 1831, came to USA ca or before 1856, as that is date on his application for citizenship, giving up allegiance to the Duke of Oldenburg. Unable to find him on any passenger list or ship record, have no knowledge of parents or siblings. Some with same spellling call is "Poley" but ours has been "Pole" for the last 3 generations at least. He raised his family in St. Charles County, MO and died in 1991 in KS. Anxious to correspond with anyone where there might be family connections. Spelling variations: Pohl, Pohla. -----Robert Pohle
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Right now I am involved in a research project that will probably take most of my time for at least another year or too. It involves my grandmother, who was the maternal grandaughter of Elizabeth. Pohle. If, according to one message, most of the Pohle's are related, then this message board ought to become active. We can compare dates, names of children, lots of things. Has anyone done research in Westphalia? I have never gotten across the ocean, but my recent research trip to NYC on my grandmother, produced a few certificates that did that for me. While I don't have much time to give to it, as I will be co-authoring some books, I am very interested. My baby book says Poley, which must give a clue to the pronunciation. Maybe all of us can make this a group effort and share in the research. This is the only name message board I have been on that has one page of messages. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. Sue
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Re: Elizabeth Pohle and Peter Scherrer
Hi, Sue. If you know where Elizabeth Pohle-Scherrer died, you may be able to find her in virtual cemetery. I have found out some information that route. I know what you mean about going through Ancestry. I have a subscription to Genealogy.com and there I can get into some of the OneFamilyTree, but if I use Ancestry.com it does not work. I wish that ALL the genealogy websites would have courtesy entries. BTW, you may e-mail me direct, if you wish, at vickibremmer@netzero.net. We may be related through the Pohle side of our trees. Hope you and yours have a wonderful Christmas and that things will be good for you in the New Year. Sincerely, Vicki
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Hello, ssf806. I have not found a connection for Frederick Pohle as yet. There were a lot of Germanic peoples coming to America that settled in Wisconsin (if I remember correctly, I believe there is a region there in Wisconsin that was named Little Germany).
I did find out the meaning of "Pohle"....it is a Pool or Pole. The exact definitions of the last name meaning and origin that I found were the following:
1. Dutch and Jewish (Ashkenazic): variant of Pohl. 2. German: variant of Pohl 3. Eastern German: habitational name from Pohla near Bautzen. 4. topographic name from Middle Low German pol (muddy) pool (Low German Pohl). 5. Pohl): habitational name for someone from the island of Poel, near Wismar. 6. Variant of Paul 7. Eastern German, Dutch, and Jewish (Ashkenazic): ethnic name for a Polish speaker or someone with some other connection with Poland, from German Pole, Dutch Pool "Pole".
I hope this helps some.
BTW, I found that Ancestry is allowing us to use the International Passenger, Immigration and Naturalization portion of their site until December 31st without cost.
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Re: Elizabeth Pohle and Peter Scherrer
Hi lockguy. As I stated in an earlier post, that the rumor that I heard from my grandmother was that all Pohle's are related. I also have been told that there may be Jewish connections in this line (which I have not discovered as yet, either). I have only found, thusfar, that they were Lutherans.
However, I have not found a connection to your Hermann Pohle as yet. I lost a lot of information in a fire and am starting basically from scratch. I know that my Pohle side had brothers and sisters (I've only traced 3 generations of Pohle's back---my grandmother's mother was Pohle and known date of birth for my gg grandfather was 1822, and his father I have been unable to find a DOB).
Sincerely,
Vicki
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Re: Elizabeth Pohle and Peter Scherrer
Hi Sue. I haven't tried out-of-country inquiries yet. I understand that most of the correspondence will be in German, however. (At least when my grandmother was doing the family tree, she inquired to Germany and everything was in German. I only know bits and pieces of German; not enough to get me through. I'll have to relocate my German-English dictionary.) I have not re-discovered my grandmother's efforts as yet or if they are still in boxes that I have not gone through.
What books are you going to be co-authoring? Sounds interesting.
Sincerely,
Vicki
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