Susan, I don't know if you remember me, but I'm Helen Poffinbarger's grandaughter, Shellie. Helen was married to Bill after his first wife. My sister, Sherri, still sees Pat in KC. How far are you into your dad's research? I have been researching Helen's side of the family for about a year. If you can give me some basic info., I will keep it posted near my computer and keep an eye out for info. I have a couple of memberships in different genealogy societies and would be glad to find anything I can for you.