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Jean B. M. Piver Family

William P. Farrington (View posts)
Posted: 20 Jan 2000 6:47PM GMT
I am very interested in the PIVER/PIVERT family. My ancestor Jean Bernard Michel
PIVER, son of Adrien Nicolas PIVER and Marie Anne Catherine D'ARCHE, was
born 1757 in Acy-en-Multien, Oise, France. He migrated to Saint Domingue
(now Haiti) circa 1780 where he met his future wife Marie Genevieve La
Feuillee Viellard. After the revolution in Saint Domingue, he fled to
Jamaica and then moved to New Orleans, LA, USA. Would you be able to
help me with Jean Bernard Michel PIVER's ancestry? Hoping to hear from
you, I remain


Sincerely Yours,


William P. Farrington

Re: Jean B. M. Piver Family

Chad Tench (View posts)
Posted: 24 Apr 2003 1:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Do you happen to have a Piver Family Crest?

Chad

Re: Jean B. M. Piver Family

Posted: 20 Jun 2008 2:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Dique, D'Arche
Hello William

I'm sorry I do not bring any news of your Piver family history. However, more questions.

Do you have any further information with regard to the D'Arche family? I believe my family (Dique) may be ancestors for a D'Arche who fled France during/after the revolution, for India. I believe he may have changed his name at this stage to Dique.

Thankyou in advance,

Joanna

Re: Jean B. M. Piver Family

Posted: 4 Sep 2009 7:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Piver, Montgomery
Dear Mr. Farrington,

I am a direct descendant of Marie Louise Pulchrie Augustine PIVER, daughter of Jean Baptiste Michiel Piver d' Elincourt, formerly a planter and King's Attorney in the District of Artibonite, St. Domingue, and William W. Montgomery, of New Orleans. My mother's maiden name was Montgomery.

I quote heavily from "Genealogical and family history of southern New York and the Hudson River Valley : a record of the achievements of her people in the making of a commonwealth and the building of a nation"

http://www.archive.org/stream/genealogicalhist00mont/genealo...

THE FAMILY OF MONTGOMERY. DESCENDANTS OF WILLIAM MONTGOMERIE, OF UPPER FREEHOLD

p. 102 GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF COLLATERAL BRANCHES OF MONTGOMERY.


p. 105

"William W. Montgomery, of New Orleans, was born in Monmouth county, New Jersey, December 7, 1778. Though born to affluence, he, at an early age, found himself and his brothers, obliged to struggle for their livelihood. In 1795 he went to New York, and after a few years' residence there, was sent as supercargo on different voyages, and in
1803 removed to New Orleans, in which city he has made his home since that period; spending, however, much of his time in Paris, where a portion of his family (no doubt the PIVER side, WGU) have resided for many years. During the invasion
of Louisiana by the British, he was Quartermaster of the Fourth Regiment Louisiana militia, and was in active service under General Jackson, until after the retreat of the British forces. By his superior business ualifications, united to the highest integrity and strictest probity,
he has found ample success in mercantile life, to reward the energy of one who had himself alone to depend on. He was President of the Branch Bank of the United States, and afterwards President of the Bank of Louisiana. At the age of eighty-four years, he can now look back to a long life of industry and usefulness. He married in 1813, in
New Orleans, Marie Louise Pulch^rie Augustine, daughter of Jean Baptiste Michiel Piver d' Elincourt, formerly a planter and King's Attorney in the District of Artibonite, St. Domingo, by whom he is the father of several children.

(M. Piver was born at the Chiitoau D'Elincourt, in the environs of Senlis, France. He was educated at the College of Rheims under a scholarship of Robert de Vaugondi, the Geographer, one of its founders, reserved for a member of his family up to the age of fifteen; after which
age he came to Paris to study law. Thence he went to St. Marc, St. Domingo, near which he had an uncle who had a largo property. The French revolution and the insurrection of St. Domingo, drove M. Piver to Jamaica, whose governor. Lord Balcarras, received him kindly. He was king's attorney and connsellor at the Court of Port au Prince. His wife was Mile, de Lafeuillee-VieIlard; his mother was Mile, de Larohe of Nantes.)

Wm. & Marie Louise's children, cont'd:

I. Charles, died in youth.

II. William Henrt, born January 26, 1816, and has for many years resided in Paris. With great fondness for the history of their family, and equal success in the researches in its genealogy, he and his brother Richard have done more
than any other two members of the family in bringing to the knowledge of their relatives, details of our common history, which are no less important genealogically, than they are interesting in a historical view.

III. Richard Roger, born December, 1817, and resides in Philadelphia, where he is by profession a lawyer.' He married in 1844, Elizabeth, daughter of the Honorable Horace Binney,' of Philadelphia, and has,

1. William Woodrow, born March 20, 1845.

2. Archibald Roger, born May 30, 1847.

3. Mary Binney, born September 9, 1848.

4. Alice, born August 19, 1850.

5. Bertha, born July 7, 1852.

6. Horace Binney, born February 6, 1854»

7. Elizabeth, born February 16, 1856.

8. Helen, born April 30, 1858.

9. Richard Alan, born June 19, I860.

10. Sman Binney, born April 28, 1862.

IV. Marie Mathilde, born January, 1820, and married in 1841, Count Leon de Bethune, nephew of the Prince de Bethune, and has

1. Marie, and

2. Conon Maximilien.

V. Frederick, died in youth.

VI. Augustus Rhea, born January 19, 1823, and is now residing in New Orleans.* He married in 1851, Margaret, daughter of Joseph Kernochan, of New York, and has

1. Lilias.

2. Margaret.

3. Augusta.

4. William.

5. Neil.

VII. Jules Alfred, born July 19, 1825, and resides in France. On December 21, 1857, he married Blanche, daughter of the Marquis de Portes, and has

1. Arnulph, born September 24, 1858, and..."

As you can see, with the usual confusion of names, the fact pattern you laid out is exactly the same. We are in possession of a pencil portarit of Wm Montgomery, but unfortunately nothing of Marie Louise. I assume that your side of the family returned to France. And, as was the custom of French Creoles in New Orleans at the time, their children were educated in France (Paris). This would explain the high percentage of Montgomerys living in France in the later years.

There was something online a few years back called the "Piver Project". It had some libelous and material mistakes regarding the Montgomerys. I tried to educate the moderator but he refused to change anything. I looked for it tonight but couldn't find it. Perhaps you'll have better luck.

Very truly yours,
Walter G. Unglaub, Esq.
Plano, TX


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