JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
I would like to find out any more info about my grandfathers 2 youngest brothers. They were James Pipe born 1895 and married ellen davison I beleive they had 1 daughter Lily and John 1893 he married Elizabeth Burrell and had about 6 children. My dad was names after both brothers he was names John James Pipe born 1929 many thanks
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Hi Susan (from email address),
I have James married to Ellen Davidson, Nelly and Ellen are essentially the same but my reference has the extra "d" as you can see. I have 9 children for Edgar and Agnes, including James and John. I do not have any children for James, I have checked for Lily on Jon Pipe's database without success. Do you have details of Lily, or are you still unsure about her being James daughter? John married Elizabeth Ann Burrell as you say but I only have children as James Edgar, Gorden and Stanley. Can you tell who the other three are please. What else do you need to know? I can tell you that these PIPEs are descended from the main Suffolk PIPEs line which goes back to (probably)to Richard born in 1327. The "probably" is because there are a couple of generations missing between Richard and Robert - whose son John was born in 1450. Regards, Peter
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Hello Peter the other 3 children I have for John and Elizbeth Burrell are John W born 1924 Robert born 1926 and Stanley born 1928 I assume these children died very young, they were the other 3 that I mentioned. I can confirm that Lily born 1928-2009 was the 1 and only child of James and Ellen the death appeared in the Sunderland Echo 23/10/2009 she died 20/10/2009 at Portland Nursing home Shrewsbury 1 time owner of Coleham Hardware. She married Robert Brydon 1930 born Sunderland and had 2 Children Margaret 1957 and Neil 1960. I was hoping they might see this post and reply,as they might know more about our family tree. Lily was born the year before my father John James.I know this was true the paper named ellens mother and father and mentioned where in sunderland they came from. Hope this is of some use for you kind regards susan
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Thanks Susan, Adds something to the overal picture. I see that Colehamds still exists in Shrewsbury.
Regards, Peter
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
May I throw a comment in here regarding the following quote from your message: "the other 3 children I have for John and Elizbeth Burrell are John W born 1924 Robert born 1926 and Stanley born 1928 I assume these children died very young, they were the other 3 that I mentioned."
The total number of children was 5. John William, Robert E, Stanley, James Edgar, & Gordon
As far as I was aware, all five were alive and well and were all married. I have not put details here as they may well still be living.
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Hi Michael, Thought I might see something from you on this.
Interesting that you think all 5 survived, at present we have two Stanleys, born 1928 and 1937, I assume that this was correct and the earlier one died. Thanks for the information, Regards, Peter
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Hi Peter,
Stanley was born Sunderland 25 Apr 1928, and married aged 24 on 14 Feb 1953 Buckinghamshire. There os no record of a death between 1928 & 1937, and no sign of a birth around 1937. As far as I know, Stanley then had at least two sons, but I cannot substantiate this - possibly Canada.
Michael
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Thanks Michael, I shall correct my records P
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Hello, I am Margaret, daughter of Lily (Pipe) and Robert Brydon. I'm afraid I don't know anything about John Pipe and family, but can confirm the info you have about Lily. Regards Margaret
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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie
Hi Margaret, Thanks for confirming that we have your mother's details correct. According to FamilyTreeMaker it means that your are my 8th cousin once removed! Regards, peter
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