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Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Posted: 8 Feb 2006 7:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi everyone,
Following my last message, I can post details of my family line, which sadly do not provide any links to Italian stock. The earliest record is John Pidd, born 1589 who later married Anne Moody 14 November 1678, with my line passing through one of their sons George Pidd born around 1620. Descibed as living in a white House opposite the Isle of Axholme Brewery, being a well-to-do man, kind hearted & often experiencing benificence towards the poor. Talk of a Dutch connection is unporoven as John pre-dates the Dutch land engineers. My Brother-in-Law has however, found in an old Lincolnshire history book reference to Pyde (Pidd), inferring it may have changed over the years, making it easier to pronounce. So, I may have a tenuous Dutch connection, but more likely to be very old English, and boasting only a friendship based Italian connection & a desire to speak the language.
Regards

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Posted: 12 Feb 2006 11:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pidd
Hi

Duncan Pidd and I seem to share common ancestors in John Pidd and Anne Moody (married 14 November 1678) through their son George. My branch of the family eventually settled in South Yorkshire in the 1860s, where I was born and grew up. By a strange co-incidence my late parents, another John Pidd and Joan Dainty, were also married on the 14th November in 1942.

I have long been intrigued by the Pidds supposed Italian connections. Linton Pidd my g.g.g.grandfather had a grandson (who was illegitimate) by his daughter Emily Pidd. The 1871 Census records Linton living with Emily Pidd and two year-old grandson Lorenzo Pidd, who had been born in Crowle. Lorenzo went on to become a railway porter and then goods foreman. In August 1904 he and his wife Florence had a son Lorenzo Taylor Pidd, but the child died aged one month. Happily, however, the couple produced twins the following year, they carried their grandparents names - Kezia Cyllene Pidd and Linton Marcus Pidd. Interestingly the family were Roman Catholics - further evidence of some Italian influence? Lorenzo was with Linton when he died suddenly in Crowle on 16 June 1887 and gave evidence at his inquest. Lorenzo himself died aged 68 in Scunthorpe on 21 October 1937.

There was also a Garibaldi Pidd, the son of Robert Pidd (died 2.10.1908) and Hannah pidd (died 25.12.1915). He died 2.2.1939 aged 76 years. He and his parents are buried together in Crowle Cemetery. It is interesting to note that Lorenzo was born in 1869 and Garibaldi about six years earlier in 1863.

There's also a twist to this story. Whilst searching the records of immigrants into the USA via Ellis Island, New York, I came across a Pidd, and that was a little girl aged 8 called Sebastiana Pidd from Siracusa ,Sicily , who arrived in 1904 aboard the ship ‘Germania’ from Naples. No parents are listed and she appeared to be traveling alone. Out of the 22 million names on the Ellis Island database this is the only Pidd and she’s Italian!

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Michala (View posts)
Posted: 13 Feb 2006 1:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pidds of crowle
Hi

My Great Grandma was Keziah Cylene Pidd and after talking with her only surving child, she seemed to think that the name Pidd was shortened when they arrived in England but she can not remember what it was or the exact time this happened.

Not sure when and How you would lok into this any ideas?

I also have the full list of children that Florence and Lorenzo had and will post them at a later date as I am at work at present

Michala

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Ralph (View posts)
Posted: 14 Feb 2006 12:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
I was going to leave the posts to Michala now, but I noticed the one on Sebastiana Pidd.

She's an oddity.

To start off with the next name listed on that Ellis island list is her sister Rosa. You have to read the original to see that.

Secondly it turns out neither of them are Pidds. Their family name is Oresco: her father is Antonio Oresco, sister Rosa Oresco, their travelling companion is a female Oresco with a male friend, and there was a younger brother called Sebastino Oresco, she also had other relatives called Sebastino Oresco, and Salvatore Oresco.
In a later census she's called Annie/Anina Oresco, so I think we can say safely she's an Oresco.

No one seems to know why she's named as a Pidd in this one document.

It's been suggested that it could be her mothers surname, but there's no evidence of this.

One person I've spoken to (who reads a lot of the Ellis island documents) has even questioned whether it says Pidd at all. I think it does, but I suggest you all look and judge for yourself.

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Tracey Bailey (View posts)
Posted: 7 Mar 2006 7:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Howard,

I, too, am descended from the very same John Pidd and Anne Moody and we have common ancestors down to Linton Pidd and Keziah Waterland.

As you correctly said, Lorenzo (my gg grandfather) was their grandson. If you are also descended from Linton and Keziah (and you also have the surname Pidd) then I'm guessing that your line is through their daughter Annie Pidd (later Turton) and her illegitimate son. If this is the case, then I'd be pleased to learn more as I haven't persued this branch of the family.

Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Tracey

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Howard Pidd (View posts)
Posted: 10 Mar 2006 7:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pidd, Neal, Turton
Hi Tracey

You are absolutely right!

I am descended from Annie Pidd's son John Tom Pidd. He is my great grandfather, born in Swinton South Yorkshire 29.10.1866.

His mother Annie married William Turton 21.10.1867 in Swinton and they had at least 10 children.

John Tom, an iron moulder, married pottery artist Martha Alice Neal of Mexborough 7.7.1888 and died 5.10.1925. He had a daughter Mary Annie and two sons Sidney and Percy.

The latter was my grandfather born 31.8.1891, married Amy Florence Womersley 11.10.1915 served in the Royal Field Artillery in WW1, worked as a coal miner all his life and died (31.8.1976 - just three days after his wife).

They had one son John (my father) born Mexborough 14.3.1921 who married my mother Joan Dainty 14.11.1942, worked as a joiner and served in the Royal navy during WW2 and died in Mexborough 4.11.1998. I also have an elder sister.

I was born in Mexborough, but now live in the Midlands.The Pidd line continues through my twin sons Benjamin and Jacob.

I'd love to know more about Lorenzo and this mysterous so-called Italian connection. I also have details of Linton Pidd's inquest in 1887 at which Lorenzo was the star witness if you're interested.

Howard

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Michala (View posts)
Posted: 26 Jun 2006 7:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Howard

It's been a while since I have looked at the postings and was reading your reply to Duncan, I also had found the connection of Garibaldi Pidd but had never actually made the link to were the connection was with the family, so thank you for clearing that up for me.

I have been speaking to my g. Auntie Yvonne who is the only daughter of Keziah's and she remember being told as a child that when the Pidd family originally came over from Italy they had another name but they shortened it to Pidd as no one could pronounce it, but sadley she can not rmember what the original name was or when the family came over.

I know this is not much but it maybe something to go on when looking for records, unfortunately I have not come up on much regarding this myself .

May I ask what other information regarding the Pidd family you have?

Hope to hear soon

Michala

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Posted: 9 Jan 2008 3:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi my name is Gary Pidd, my grandparents were Maude Elizabeth and George Pidd. They were both born in the 1880's in England. I am 50 and live in New Zealand. They told us, when they were alive that our name was shortened when the family moved from Europe to England. I beleive they said it was something like LePidd.

Annie Pidd mother of John Tom Pidd

Posted: 20 Feb 2009 1:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pidd
Hi,

Is Annie the daughter of Jane Linton & Thomas Pidd [ 1798-1869 ] sister to Linton, Hannah, Mary, Taylor, Sarah, & William ? If so my line is as follows............. William - Tom Pidd - Fred Pidd snr - Fred Pidd - Norman Pidd - Tracy Pidd [ me ]

I'm working from some old info that was left to me many years ago, so the dates /names maybe a little off, I say this as it lists my grandmother as Jennie when in fact she was Jane Pidd [ nee Trow ]


Thanks

Tracy

Re: Pidds of Crowle, North Lincolnshire

Posted: 18 Jul 2010 9:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am interested in Susannah Pidd who may have married Jonathan Cranidge in1871 and had Pidd children including Arthur George, Appy (Happy) Elizabeth. This is the very strt of my research.
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