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Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 25 Jan 2002 4:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Dec 2002 3:46AM GMT
Surnames: phaire/gamble/farmer/hill/purdon/phayer
There is a new book that has just been published that includes detailed information about Col. Robert Phaire, his descendants and associated families (Gamble, Farmer, Hill, etc.) from Counties Cork, Wexford, and Limerick. Please directly contact the author below for additional information.

BOOK TITLE: Cromwell’s Legacy: The Phayre Family in Ireland
BOOK AUTHOR: Barbara A. Phayre
BOOK DESCRIPTION: The descendants of Colonel Robert Phayer/Phayre/Phaire with associated families (Farmer, Hill, Gamble,etc.) are described in this 111-page book with a “descendancy” chart enclosed. Book size is 5.75” by 8.25” with soft cover. Book is written in narrative form with historical context and identification of family members. Pictures of people, documents and maps are included.
COST: $23.00 includes postage and shipping costs
PAYMENT: Personal checks or international money orders should be made out to Barbara A. Phayre
EMAIL ADDRESS: Roger@rphayre.freeserve.co.uk


Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 12 Mar 2013 11:29PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Phayre
I have just seen the past correspondence on the Phayre family. My name is Colonel Terence Phayre-Knott. My son is the 25th Robert in the family.
Lt Cl Robert Phayre who signed the death warrant, with Cromwell, of King Charles 1, was sent to Ireland to act as Assistant Governor in Dublin. He was put in the Tower of London, on. charge of regicide, but escaped death by marrying the daughter of the governor of the Tower and paying Charles 11 the sum of two hundred thousand pounds and changing his faith to Protestant.
My grandfather was colonel Robert Phayre, my uncle was colonel Desmond Phayre and my cousin is Lt Col Robin Phayre, still alive, in the UK

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 19 Mar 2013 10:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Phair/Pickering/Corban/Crofts
Thank you for posting this. I too have the connection with your family. I know about the death warrant on King Chas. Do you have any surnames by the names of: Corban/Crofts/Pickering/Phair ? This is my part that I am trying to make connections with. Hope to get some updated information as it's been awhile since my father and I have been on here. We are getting back in the swing of things. We love to research our geneaology. We can be contacted via email too: SwthrtPea@yahoo.com or crp1939@yahoo.com Thanks you. Hope to hear from you soon.

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 8:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello, I regret the names you mention are not within my scope from the Great Britain side, but if of interest, I will post the direct line from Colonel Phayre to the present day?
Terence Phayre Knott, colonel Royal Marines

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 5:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Phair
Hi and Thank you for your reply so soon. I would love to have the post of the direct line from Col Phayre to present day. Thank you. You may email me at SwthrtPea@yahoo.com if you prefer. Thanks again. I look forward to hearing from you again.

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 11:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Phayre
Sorry, I have tried to mail you direct, but have had the yahoo address rejected three times.
Do you have another I could use?
Terence Phayre Knott

Swthrtpea@ yahoo.com ?

Terry_knott@hotmail.com
Terryknott@me.com

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 17 Apr 2013 6:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
My correct email address is


SwthrtPea@yahoo.com

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 14 Dec 2013 3:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
My information is that Robert PHAIRE was born in Ireland, and was the son of a Church of Ireland Minister named Emanuel PHAIRE, the Vicar of Kilshannig, Co Cork, 1612-1642 (born in England; B.A.; ordained in 1604 by the Bishop of Oxford).
Robert & Emanuel were both despoiled of property and livings at Kilvalid, in Kilshannig Parish, in the Rebellion of Nov 1641; Robert went to England after the First Cessation of Arms (Sep 1643), with the Earl of Inchiquin's Regiment, and went with Inchiquin when he changed allegiance from King to Parliament; but when Inchiquin returned to Ireland, and later changed allegiance back to the King, PHAIRE remained loyal to Parliament; he became involved in a prisoner exchange with several of Inchiquin's sons, and so arrived back in England, and quickly came to CROMWELL's attention.
Hence his involvement with the Regicides, and his subsequent appointment by CROMWELL as Military Governor of Cork.
After the Restoration of Charles II, he was arrested, imprisoned firstly in Dublin, then sent to London with several other prisoners, including the Commonwealth Solicitor John COOKE.
PHAIRE was released from the Tower withour penalty; he was placed into the care of his (2nd) father-in-law, Sir Thomas HERBERT, who had been one of the Grooms of the Privy Chamber of King Charles, and had accompanied the King to the scaffold; it is said that the Duke of Ormond also offered the King to be bound as his surety, as PHAIRE had apparently, while Governor of Cork, saved the life of Viscount Muskerry, ORMOND's brother-in-law; ORMONDE had also made it clear that PHAIRE's 2nd wife & his father-in-law had both made contributions to a loyallist fund by which the new King Charles II had gained some advantage during the Inter-Regnum.
Most of this information is to be found in the scholarly article "Colonel Robert PHAIRE, 'Regicide.' His Ancestry, History and Descendants," written by William H. WELPLY, B.A., & published in four parts in the Journal of the Cork Historical and Archaeological Society, Vol.29 (1924) p.76 et seq, Vol.30 (1925) p.20 et seq, Vol.31 (1926) p.31 et seq, & Vol.32 (1927) p.24 et seq.
I will very shortly be blogging these articles in full on my www.pigott-gorrie.blogspot.com web-site, in the most recent posting (already commenced) on Irish PHAIR & PHAYRE families.
Regards,
Chris PIGOTT, Potts Point, N.S.W.
I am a descendant of Letitia PHAYRE (1739-1812) of Kilmore & Ballyhaise, Co Cavan, & later of Dublin City, the wife of Thomas MAGUIRE.

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 2 Jan 2014 1:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Robert Phaire became friendly with the daughter of the Governor of the Tower of London, while incarcerated and married her, as he changed his faith to Protestant - a good move!
Allegedly he donated some £200,000 to the Kings coffers - a huge sum in those days, possibly made while he was in Ireland.
His direct line still live in England, France and Kenya

The Phayre/Phaire crest can be traced back, broadly the same, to Guy Fere of Benhall, Suffolk, in about 1325-1328. The grip hon on top was replaced with a dove, by Lieutenant General Robert Phayre, in the late 1800s, when he was Commissioner of Burma, to avoid frightening the natives! It worked....

Lt Col Robin Phayre in Wiltshire England
Colonel Terence Phayre Knott in France, Terryknott@ me.com Cousin of Robin
Capt Robert Phayre, Kenya - son of Terence

Re: Col. Robert Phaire (1620-1682) & Descendants-new publication

Posted: 8 Jan 2014 7:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Robert PHAIRE may have befriended the daughter of his Tower keeper while he was incarcerated there, 1660-62, but he was already married to his 2nd wife Elizabeth HERBERT since 1658, the marriage having taken place in Dublin.
As his father, Emanuel PHAIR, was a Church of Ireland Minister in County Cork (1612 until the rebellion in 1641), I think Robert was always a Protestant, at least until he joined the sect known as the Muggletonians, having, it appears, "dabbled" with the Quakers.
He is said to have made provision foo a cash amount in his 1658 Marriage Settlements, and I gather that these funds were somehow made available to the future Charles II during his exile; but I doubt it would have been quite that large an amount of money. Even the King himself, when he came to the throne in 1660, would have had some difficulty raising that amount in one donation. But I may be wrong.
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