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Ernest Peuker

Ernest Peuker

Posted: 27 Aug 1999 9:51AM GMT
Edited: 21 Feb 2003 12:08AM GMT
Ernest (Ernestus) Peuker was born @ 1837 in Schleisinger, Kreishabel Werth, Germany. He came to the United States on Jan 29, 1883 through the port of New York. His wife was Amelia Mann born Jan 7, 1842 in Pummin, Germany. Their first two sons Joseph Peuker (3/17/1871) and Alfred Ernest Peuker (1/3/1881) were also born in Germany. The family settled around San Antonio, TX.
Their other three children were Ida Peuker, Mary Peuker, Hedwig Peuker. Please contact me if these people look familiar. Gloria Walker daglo@ix.netcom.com http://www.geocities.com/~vauwal

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 18 Mar 2007 2:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Peuker
I have come across a large Peuker family in church records in Atchison, KS. Do any look familiar? Given names: Ida Caroline, Johann Carl, Julius, George Friedrich (son of Julius),Carl, Karl, August Robert (son of Johann & Louise Peuker), Ottilie Karoline (dau. of Karl Gottlieb & Louise Peuker), Anna, Lydia Auguste (dau. of Carl Julius Peuker), Flora Lydia. These were found in the first 57 pages of baptisms from 1869-1882. I am in the process of transcribing all the old Lutheran church records, so there should be more Peuker entries found later on.

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 12 Mar 2009 7:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Peuker
I'm researching the Liebsch Family. Otto Max Liebsch was married to Anna Caroline Handke who's mother was Caroline Rose Peuker who's mother was Caroline Peuker of Germany. I've researched the census, but cannot find who Caroline Peuker, 1818, was married to.

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 17 Mar 2009 11:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: HANDKE, ROERCHEN, SCHWOPE, ETC.
I have a number of families in Atchison and Doniphan Counties that I am researching. They all came from the same area of Germany, and they all intermarried. And most, if not all of them were Lutheran.

The ones I'm concentrating on right now are Handke, Roherchen, and Schwope, and they all have a number of different spellings.

The others are Peuker, Peusker, Peisker, Klinnert, Fuhrman, and Kuhnert among others.

Have you found any of the above names?

When you finish transcribing the records, are you going to make copies to sell?

Janet
janetstitch@aol.com

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 21 Mar 2009 9:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Peuker Klinnert Handke
Have you checked the following site?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wilsweik/
index.htm.

There is some Peuker info there. I have found some mistakes in my Handkes, but it is a place to start.
This site has from a ship's passenger list: Johann Gottlob Peuker 1828-1876 married to Caroline Geppert 1818-1901. Children Julius Peuker, 1857-1888; Anne Peuker 1859-1880, Emma Peuker 1862-1898; William Klinnert 1844-1888; Fredrick Klinnert 1853-1918. Ship "Hammonia" arrived 1872.

Caroline Rose Peuker Klinnert or Klinnert Peuker [I've seen it both ways] is also a daughter, she arrived on the ship "Germania" in 1869 with her husband William Handke and son Karl Traugott (Charles T.).

There's quite a gap between William Klinnert's birth in 1844 and Frederick's in 1853, and Caroline Rose's in 1854. Makes me wonder if there were other children.

Some researchers have Caroline Geppert married first to a Klinnert. According to the children listed above that sounds right. They also have her daughter Caroline first married to August Carl Klinnert. And that William Handke adopted her son Charles. It's possible, but Charles was born April 1868 and by June 1869, Caroline Rose and William were married and on their way to America. Charles Handke's obit doesn't mention a father named Klinnert. According to his obit his father was William Handke. Needs more research.


I haven't really done any research on the Peuker line yet. Caroline who married William Handke is the only Peuker that I know of in the Handke family, and my line is through William's brother Gottlieb. I've just this month started researching the other family lines that came from Germany in hopes of learning more about my Handkes.
I understand that there were about 60 families that came from that small area of Germany to Atchison and Doniphan Counties, Kansas. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them weren't connected by marriage long before they arrived here.


Do you have much info on Caroline Rose Peuker Handke's father William and his brothers Gottlieb and Gottfried? None of us can get past these three brothers. We sure would like to know their parent's names.

Janet

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 23 Mar 2009 5:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Check the Kansas State Census of 1875 Shannon, Atchison, KS. There's a GOTLIEB PEUKER lister with wife GEBBERD whom I think is Caroline Geppert. Also in that family is listed William Klinnert, Julius Peuker and Emma Peuker.
There's a GOTFRIED HANDKE with wife Carolina and Paul, William and Richard.
There's an ANNA R KLINERT, no spouse, with Bertha, William and Paul
There's a WILLIAM HANDKE (1843) with wife Rosa and Carl, Caroline, Bertha & Willie
The handwriting on these census is pretty bad so it's tough to decipher.
I still haven't found any parents of William Handke or parents of his spouse Caroline Rose Peuker.
I do Believe that Johann Gottlob Peuker and the Gotlieb Peuker I found in the 1875 Kansas State Census are the same person.

It's my daughter that is related to Henrick William (William Henrick) Handke and Caroline Rose Peuker thru their daughter Anna Caroline Peuker & Otto Max Liebsch.

I haven't started research other countries yet.

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 23 Mar 2009 5:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
I can understand your concern about selling information. I have the same concerns. If someone asks for information that's close to our generation, I usually just give information that is already on record up to 1930 census or as much as possible between 1850 and 1900. My biggest problem is finding ancestors before the 1850 US Census. It does look like almost all men born between 1880 and 1900 had to register for the WWI draft. Sometimes I can verify birthdates, spouses and exact addresses and the name they are using.
I don't have my tree posted on the ancestry site per the request of most of my relatives. I do use the message boards in case I can help someone or vice versa. I definitely will not sell information.

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 23 Mar 2009 8:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
From what I've read, researched, and the information you gave me, this is what I THINK??
CAROLINE GEPPERT 1818 was first married to August Carl Klinnert and had Fredrick, William AND Caroline Rose Klinnert (not Caroline Rose Peuker). I don't think Caroline Rose was married to anyone but William Handke and her first child was Charles Handke. She was only 20 when charles was born. Her real father may have been August Carl Klinnert and her Stepfather Johann Gotlieb Peuker.
CAROLINE GEPPERT KLINNERT then married Gotlieb Peuker and had Julius, Ann and Emma. I've checked the Kansas State Census and there are so many Peuker's with children with similar names it's very frustrating. I have yet to find any evidence of a August Carl Klinnert in the US in anyway related to the Klinnert's of Kansas from Germany.
Just a thought.
Gerry
gchaffee31@aol.com

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 23 Mar 2009 9:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Handke Peuker Klinnert
From the information I have found, I understand that Rose Peuker who married William Handke was the daughter of Caroline Gebbert, and the step-daughter of Gotlieb Peuker.
Caroline Gebbert was married first to a Klinnert, then to Gotlieb Peuker.

Some researchers also have Rose married first to a Klinnert then to William Handke, but I'm wondering if the Klinnert she supposedly was married to was her brother--not her husband. Some also have Rose's eldest son Charles with the last name Klinnart, and being adopted by William Handke. But on the ships passenger list his last name is Handke, and in his obit it is Handke. I have found no record where Charles'last name was Klinnart.

According to the ships passenger list, Julius Peuker, Emma Peuker, Anna Peuker, William Klinnart, and Frederick Klinnart were the children of Johann Gottlob Peuker and wife Caroline Geppert. Daughter Caroline Rose came on an earlier voyage with her husband William Handke and son Charles (Karl Traugott) Handke.

On the 1875 Kansas State Census
Gotlieb Peuker and wife Gebberd are the parents of William Klinnart, and Julius and Emma Peuker. I believe Gotlieb & Gebberd are the parents of Caroline Rose Peuker who married William Handke.
Gotfried Handke and Caroline, children Paul, William, and Richard. Gottfried is your William's brother.
I don't know who the Ann Klinnert is.
William Handke, Rose, Carl, Caroline, Bertha , and Willie are your William & Caroline Rose.

There were 3 Handke brothers who came to the Atchison area: John Gottfried, Gottlieb Frederick, and Hendrik William. They also had a sister Bertha who stayed in Germany. I have been in contact with a number of their descendents and no one knows their parents names. There was quite a gap between the ages of Gottlieb born 1825, Gottfried born 1837 and William born 1842. There were probably more children, but no one knows for sure.

I've been told that Moretta Kuhnert, who lived in Atchison, and was a daughter-in-law of Paulina Johanna Handke Kuhnert, compiled a book of Handke genealogy, that was several hundred pages, but no one has been able to find that book. It wasn't a published book, just family history she had put together. Paulina Johanna Handke was the daughter of Gottlieb, and your William's niece. If we could find that book, it might help.

Re: Ernest Peuker

Posted: 23 Mar 2009 9:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Peuker Klinnert Handke
One of these days, I'm going to learn to read all the posts BEFORE sending a reply :)

I see that you have reached the same conclusion I have about Caroline Rose Peuker Handke's marriages that I have.
I also believe that her mother Caroline Geppert was married to August Carl Klinnert, not her daughter Caroline Rose. And that Caroline Geppert's second husband was Johann Gotlieb Peuker. It's possible that Caroline Rose could have taken her step-father's Peuker surname, and was known as Caroline Rose Klinnert Peuker or Peuker Klinnert.

August Carl Klinnert probably died in Germany, since Caroline Geppert and Gotlieb Peuker were already married when they came to the USA. They could have been divorced, but most likely he had already died.

Wouldn't it have been nice if everyone would have used different names for their children? It sure does get confusing.

Janet
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