Hi Astrozombie, Its possible we are. My great grandfather had 2 wives. Lorenza Recendes was my grandfather's mom. Luis was my great grandfather. He left Lorenza for another woman at the turn of the century and had children with her. Luis's father was Jose Maria. He was from Tlazazalca. Luis was born there but he was living in Uruapan when he married Lorenza. My grandfather was Eleuterio, his brother was Francisco. He also had a sister. i'm not sure what her name was. It may have been Angelita. Check with your family in Uruapan. Eleuterio, My grandpa was born in 1896. Luis,his father was born in 1867 in Tlazazalca. Joyce Santiago Maloy