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Jose Rodrigues Pao Sr's Hawaii-Born Children

Jose Rodrigues Pao Sr's Hawaii-Born Children

Posted: 11 Sep 2000 8:46PM GMT
Edited: 10 Jun 2002 1:29AM GMT
Four of Jose Rodrigues Pao's children were born in Hawaii - Charles/Ewa/1908; Joseph Jr/Hanamaulu/1916; Nicholas/Hanamaulu/1917 and Gladys/Oahu/1922. Gladys (Frank) Bolduc
apparently was the youngest. She died in San
Jose, California in 1995.

Jose Christina Pao

Coreen Pao-Mulkey (View posts)
Posted: 11 Sep 2000 11:40PM GMT
Aloha Ron,
My Dad, Charles Rodrigues Pao was the ONLY Hawaii born child. I think, Joe, Nicholas and Gladys is siblings and their father was Uncle Manuel (or John? forget?) who is my father's brother. When Vovoo and Vovo (I hope I'm spelling it right?) came over on the ship, there was Aunt Mary, Blandina, Uncles,Manuel, John and Joe. Joe was "baby" and he supposely was "snucked on board". My Dad was the only one born in Hawaii.

Correction and An Enigma

Posted: 12 Sep 2000 8:40PM GMT
Edited: 10 Jun 2002 1:29AM GMT
I stand corrected, Coreen! The Kumeric's manifest of 27 Jun 1907 listed Joao Rodrigues
Pao as being 41 and accompanied by Francisca de Jesus, 40; their children were Maria, 15; Palmyra, 11; Jose, 6; Manoel, 3 and Joao, 1. They were from the town of Machico, a fishing village to the east of Funchal. The name Palmyra was murdered on a number of occasions - as Belmira and Blandina. It would appear that Christina - your dad's mom was Joseph's 2nd wife as your
dad indicated that he was part German on his voters' registration. The other Pao rela-
tives of yours were from Manuel Rodrigues Pao and Mary Freitas Calistro. If the mani-
fest's data is accurate, Manuel on the Kumeric would not been the same Manuel as he
would have been too young! Thus, the mystery.

Manuel Rodrigues Pao

Posted: 12 Sep 2000 9:16PM GMT
Edited: 10 Jun 2002 1:29AM GMT
Manuel R Pao and Mary Freitas Calistro had
Joseph R Pao (1916), Nicholas r Pao (1917),
Harold R Pao (1919) and Gloria (John) Medeiros (date unknown). Mary was born on the Island of Kauai in 1890 and died in Honolulu in 1969 (Kailua). She lies at rest in the Diamond Head Memorial Park Cemetery.
If Manuel was 3 in 1907, it would appear that there might be another Manuel - who might be the brother of - rather than the son of Jose Rodrigues Pao? Who wants to take it from here? Machico, Madeira beckons!

Manuel R. Pao

Coreen Pao-Mulkey (View posts)
Posted: 13 Sep 2000 2:46AM GMT
Ron, I think if I'm not mistaken, Manuel is my Dad's brother. Joe, Nicholas and Gloria is my cousins. I will check and get back to you, but I'm almost sure. Thanks for the information.

Joseph Pao

Coreen Pao-Mulkey (View posts)
Posted: 13 Sep 2000 3:05AM GMT
Ron, I'm lost
I believe my grandmother was the only wife of Joseph Pao and they had Mary, Blandina, Manuel, John and Joseph when they came to Hawaii. My Dad was the only one born in Hawaii. I will get back to you on this because I really need to know. I have no knowledge of DeJesus or the rest of the people you mentioned.

*Correction

Coreen Pao-Mulkey (View posts)
Posted: 13 Sep 2000 3:37AM GMT
Ron, forgive me. It just occured to me that the children listed Marie 15 (Mary), Palmyra 11 (Blandina), Jose 6 (Joseph), Manoel 3 (Manuel), and Joao 1 (John), IS my Dad's brother's and sister's, LOL. Not too bright on my Portugese, duh! I think what might have happened was either the spelling and ages were off because I know for sure Uncle Joe was the baby when they came from Portugal. Also, the manifest listed Joao (John)Rodrigues Pao, it should have been Joseph? And as for Francisca deJesus, is it possible that was a mistake? Or maybe she changed her name when she got to Hawaii? It's my understanding, my grandmother was his only wife. Manuel was my Dad's brother and the father of Joe, Nicholas etc. Any thoughts on this? I'll get back to you, need to check with brother and sister on this.

Manifest for Kumeric - Jose Roiz Pao

Posted: 13 Sep 2000 8:48AM GMT
Edited: 10 Jun 2002 1:29AM GMT
Confusing, eh? Page 402 of a pubication en-
titled Passenger Lists/Portuguese Arriving in
the Sandwich Islands - item 546.1-7: states
that the entry was Jose Roiz (Rodrigues) Pao with Francisca de Jesus! I would surmise that somewhere along the line - this Francisca died and because of the little children to care for - Jose married Christina who now had your father. The "clue" was perhaps your dad's stating he was
part German. If Christina came from Portugal, she would have been pure-Portuguese. We will have to dig into some records, if available, that existed prior to
your dad's birth - between June 1907 and April 1908. A death, maybe, and/or a marriage of a Pao!

Mary Neves

Posted: 13 Sep 2000 3:09PM GMT
Edited: 27 Nov 2001 11:33PM GMT
I don't know if this will help clarify at all, but on Mary Fernandez Neves' death certificate, Joseph Rodriguez Pao's oldest child, it states that De Jesus was her mother's maiden name. So, it seems fairly clear that this De Jesus woman bore all of those children listed on the passenger list. This becomes unclear with the children born afterwards in Hawaii. So, she didn't bear any of those children in Hawaii? Did she die from 1907 - 1910???

Charles R Pao, Sr/Hawaii-born/1908

Posted: 14 Sep 2000 12:40AM GMT
Edited: 10 Jun 2002 1:29AM GMT
Christina is the mother of Charles Rodrigues Pao, born in Ewa, Oahu, Hawaii, 22 Apr 1908.
He passed away on 11 Mar 1960 at an early age. In her obituary, Christina claimed to be born in Madeira and that those children listed on the Kumeric's manifest were hers. We cannot refute that claim unless we locate a death notice or a marriage certificate to countermand that.
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