Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
I am trying to find out information on Thomas Paige (Payge/Paidge) who was twice Mayor of Dartmouth, Devon in the early 1600s. I believe he may have been born in 1589 in Stoke Fleming, Devon to parents, Vincent Paidge and Margaret Sparke. In particular trying to trace decendants and links to Eales family (Mary Paige Eales of the nineteenth century).
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
Hi, I am a direct descendent of the Slapton Paiges and have mapped most of the Paiges history out across Devn and in particualr South Hams.
My records go back to early 18th C although i do have some sources which go a little further.
The SLapton Paiges were one of the more wealthy families and perhaps this could be a hint of a connection further back into the family you are researching. I would be very interested in any information you may have and similarly you are welcome to any of mine.
Regards
Bob Oliver
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
You refer to the Paige family which owned most of Slapton Parish (in Devon UK) until 1820 which goes back in Slapton at least to the mid 14th. Century. They appear to have been an offshoot of the french Villeneuve family whose Coat of Arms or Crest they share, unlike many USA Page/Paige families the spelling of the Slapton Paiges has consistently included the "i" (there is even a stained glass window in a Dartmouth church humourously commemorating a Paige incumbent of the parish with a pictorial eye).. the consistency may derive from what is believed to be the original spelling PAY(D)GE which probably reflects the french origins of the name...I have the family bible and various other documents and when time permits I will look to see whether the names/ dates you give fit with any records of that time. THere is an interesting history of Slapton in which the Paige family figure prominently called "A fortunate place" by Robin Staines published by the Field Studies Council in 1983.
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
You refer to the Paige family which owned most of Slapton Parish (in Devon UK) until 1820 which goes back in Slapton at least to the mid 14th. Century. They appear to have been an offshoot of the french Villeneuve family whose Coat of Arms or Crest they share, unlike many USA Page/Paige families the spelling of the Slapton Paiges has consistently included the "i" (there is even a stained glass window in a Dartmouth church humourously commemorating a Paige incumbent of the parish with a pictorial eye).. the consistency may derive from what is believed to be the original spelling PAY(D)GE which probably reflects the french origins of the name...I have the family bible and various other documents and when time permits I will look to see whether the names/ dates you give fit with any records of that time. THere is an interesting history of Slapton in which the Paige family figure prominently called "A fortunate place" by Robin Staines published by the Field Studies Council in 1983.
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
I am wondering if either Thomas Paige or John Paige--or any other Paige from this region of England-- had a son named Nathaniel born about 1647. He was a Dissenter, perhaps estranged from his family for that reason; he married Joanna and had 3 children in the 1670s-80s, then emigrated to Boston in 1685. This Paige family is well-known in Massachusetts, but Nathaniel's English origins have never been convincingly identified.
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
You almost certainly refer to the Paige family which owned most of Slapton Parish (in Devon UK) until 1820; the family goes back in Slapton and nearby parishes including Stoke Fleming, at least to the mid 14th. Century. They appear to have been an offshoot of the french Villeneuve family whose Coat of Arms or Crest they share, unlike many USA Page/Paige families the spelling of the Slapton Paiges has consistently included the "i" (there is even a stained glass window in a Dartmouth church humourously commemorating a Paige incumbent of the parish with a pictorial eye).. the consistency may derive from what is believed to be the original spelling PAY(D)GE which probably reflects the french origins of the name...I have the family bible and various other documents and when time permits I will look to see whether the names/ dates you give fit with any records of that time. THere is an interesting history of Slapton in which the Paige family figure prominently called "A fortunate Place" by Robin Staines published by the Field Studies Council in 1983.
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
Thank you for the responses. I am still no nearer working out how the Eales family (up my grandfathers line)were linked to Paige (the name has been preserved in my family as it is my and my father's middle name!).
My late grandfather made a copy of a stained glass window with a crest and the words "Thos Payge. Marchant. twice Maior of Dartmoth gaue XX powndes to the building of this window Anno 1634".
The crest is unusual It has 4 quarters coloured blue gold and white with lions ans symbols in gold and what look like upturned crescents in blac. Above it is an upturned arm in green holding what looks like a wreath. I am no expert in heraldry and do not know what any of this means, if anything.
I am shortly travelling to Dartmouth and would love to know which church this appears in. None of my granfather's records state the name of the church even though he went to great trouble to make a coloured painting of the crest which I now have and which is in a frame.
i shall be staying in Slapton and so will have a look in the churchyard for paiges.
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
I am a descendent of Thomas Paige b.1800 Dartmouth son of William Lang Paige d.Feb.4, 1825 Dartmouth buried in St. Saviour's and Jane Paige(nee Macey). W.L.Paige had 13 children with more than one wife. Thomas Paige married Elizabeth Flood at Chudleigh 17 March 1828 He was a merchant who moved to Lisbon and had seven children. A baby Mary was born and died in Lisbon.Two of the sons later went to Australia. Thomas Henry Paige d.1911 NSW Australia John Flood Paige d. 1915 NSW Australia and the others William,Elizabeth,Henry and Mary Jane are buried in London with their mother. I have further details if this is a family connection.
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
I can not help you with any Paige/Eales family links, but think all your other questions can be answered by searching < www.dartmouth-history.org.uk> and there you can find a document titled "Thomas Paige Booklet". Regards, Roger Paige.
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Re: Thomas Paige, Dartmouth, England
Hi ?Nigel,
Could you give any more insight into your assertions that the PAIGES from Slapton were descended fro French (Villeneuve) stock.
Do you really have the family bible? What period does it originate from.
I have the Staes book, I also have Domesday to DDay which is a history of east Allington and includes tree information and refs to the PAIGES who lived there.
Finally. I am descended directly from Nicholas Wm Paige b1814 (Master Mariner)through his second wife. are you also a close relative? I have many PAIGE contacts across the world all doing similar things building out the PAIGE or other closely related tree histories.
REgards
Bob
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