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Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2009-09-18 11:10:33Z

The baptism record for Antonin Mohelnicky (Anton Mohelnitzky) has been located!

Anton Mohelnitzky was born March 24, 1848 and baptized in Seltschan on March 25, 1848. At that time, the town was located Bohemia in the Austrian Empire. Today, the town is known as Sedlcany and is located in Czech Republic.

More info:
http://sites.google.com/site/auswanderer20/Home/mohelnitzky/...

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2009-06-15 05:41:21Z

I finally checked the series of books, "Germans to America: Lists of Passengers Arriving at U.S. Ports 1850-1897, 1840s" and looked for Mohelnitzky. I found nothing that sounded/looked close.

The last name is spelled wrong in so many places, though, so maybe I'll never find him on a ship list.

Here's my updated website URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/auswanderer20/Home/mohelnitzky

World War I Draft Registration Card – Henry William Ottow – Sept. 12, 1918

fuschia07 — 2007-07-08 21:34:09Z

Henry William Ottow was married to Catherine "Katie" Klein (daughter of Julia Mohelnitzky and Anton Klein).

World War I Draft Registration Card – Henry William Ottow – Sept. 12, 1918

[Left side of registration form]
Registration Card
Serial Number: 2008
Class of Sept. 1918
Order Number: 1810 1/2
1. First name: Henry
Middle name: William
Family name: Ottow
2. Permanent Home Address:
No.:
Street or R.F.D. number:
City or town: International Falls
County:
State: Minn [Minnesota]
3. Age by Years: 42
4. Date of Birth: Oct.
Month: Oct.
Day: 27
Year: 1875
Race:
5. White [check mark]
6. Negro
7. Oriental
8. Indian: Citizen / Non-Citizen

U.S. Citizen:
10. Native Born: [check mark]
11. Naturalized:
12. Citizen by Father's Naturalization before Registrant's Majority:

Alien:
13. Declarant:
14. Non-declarant
15: If not a citizen of the U.S., of what nation are you a citizen or subject?:

16. Present Occupation: Salesman
17. Employer's Name: H. A. Baker Co
18. Place of employment or business:
No.
Street or R.F.D. number:
City or town: Sioux City
County:
State: [hard to read document]

Nearest Relative:
19. Name: Mrs. H. W. Ottow (wife)
20. Address:
No.:
Street or R.F.D. number:
City or town: International Falls
County:
State: Minn [hard to read document]

I affirm that I have verified above answers and that they are true.

P.M.G.O.
Form No. 1 (Red)
Registrant's signature or mark: H. W. Ottow

[Right side of registration form]
Registrar's Report 22-4-17-C
Description of Registrant
Height:
21. Tall:
22. Medium: [check mark]
23. Short:
Build:
24. Slender:
25. Medium: [check mark]
26. Stout:
27. Color of eyes: Blue
28. Color of hair: Brown
29. Has person lost arm, leg, hand, eye, or is he obviously physically disqualified? (Specify): None [hard to read handwriting]

30. I certify that my answers are true, that the person registered has read or has had read to him his own answers, that I have witnessed his signature or mark and that all of his answers of which I have knowledge are true, except as follows:

Signature of Registrar: Hg Laucek [hard to read signature]
Date of Registration: Sept. 12, 1918 R/c 8[?]/12/18 [hard to read document]

[Stamp]
Local Board For the
County of Koochiching,
State of Minnesota,
International Falls, Minn.

(The stamp of the local board having jurisdiction of the area in which the registrant has his permanent home shall be placed in this box)

[Stamp]
Local Board Division No. 5[?]
716 New York Life Bldg.,
Minneapolis, Minn.

Source Citation: Registration Location: Koochiching County, Minnesota; Roll: 1675514; Draft Board: 0.

Source Information: Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls.
Description: This database contains an index and images of World War I draft registration cards completed by approximately 24 million men living in the U.S. in 1917 and 1918. Information that may be found for an individual includes: name, place of residence, date and place of birth, race, country of citizenship, occupation, and employer.

Mohelnitzky websites

fuschia07 — 2007-01-08 23:18:38Z

I have two websites with information about the Mohelnitzky family, including Ruskauff/Freker and Fastner/Niga/Hany.

http://violetblue20.googlepages.com/home

http://earlydues.usanethosting.com/ruskauff/index.htm

I'm happy to share what I have with anyone who is interested.

I'm also looking for old family photos, postcards, letters, or anything else pertaining to these families.

Debbie

Julia and Mary Mohelnitzky - lived at St. Rose Orphan Asylum

fuschia07 — 2007-01-12 23:00:24Z

I received an email today with the good news that Julia and Mary's names are listed on index cards at St. Rose Orphan Asylum, Milwaukee, Wisconsin (now called St. Rose Youth & Family Center, Inc.).

The sisters' last name was listed as "Mowhometichkie" -- birth dates and parent's names were not listed. I'm assuming the spelling of the last name is phonetic because the name is usually spelled "Mohelnitzky."

Both girls entered the orphanage on March 14th, 1858.
Julia was discharged on April 5th, 1861.
Mary was discharged on June 4th, 1862.

No record was found of their baptism or confirmation.

There was a reference to Book #1 on the index cards. It's possible the book is still in existence in the archives at the orphanage. If it's found, it may list the town where the girls were born in Bohemia.

When I receive the copies of the index cards, I'll post it here: http://violetblue20.googlepages.com/juliamohelnitzky%2Canton...

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2007-01-10 22:44:33Z

I haven't checked "Germans to America: Lists of Passengers Arriving at U.S. Ports 1850-1897, 1840s" yet, but I found a link that shows where the books can be found:
http://www.genealogienetz.de/misc/emig/gta-holdings.html

The years are about right, as I think the Mohelnitzky family emigrated between 1854-1858.

Will put that on my "to do" list for when I get to the big city.

Thanks for the reminder, I almost overlooked it!
Debbie

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

ZlaticaBeca — 2007-01-10 22:36:57Z

Thanks for the update. Bummer. How about Germans to America?

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2007-01-10 22:27:47Z

As an update to my earlier post, I found someone who could do a lookup for Mohelnitzky/Mohelnicky/Mahanesky/Mohanesky - but nothing was found in all 9 volumes.

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

ZlaticaBeca — 2007-01-09 23:36:15Z

Your welcome.

You might look for MOHELNICKA (female).

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2007-01-09 23:31:37Z

Thanks to Zlatica for helping me use the online Czech phone book!

Mohelnicky needs to go in the "Příjmení" field.
Unclick the "Používám diakritiku" box.
Search in all regions listed in the drop down box.

5 Mohelnicky names were found.

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

ZlaticaBeca — 2007-01-09 18:01:23Z

Yes.

Take out the check mark in pouzivam diakritiku
Use only Mohelnicky, Ostrava, take out checkmark
or
Use Mohelnicky, take out the checkmark, and Moravskosleszky Tel.obvod.
Ing.title, technical education
Ing.Karel MOHELNICKY

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2007-01-09 17:56:43Z

In the Czech phone book, I entered:

Jméno: Mohelnicky
Obec: Ostrava
Tel. obvod: Moravskoslezsky

I must be doing something wrong, I didn't find anything.

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

ZlaticaBeca — 2007-01-09 17:02:08Z

Leo Baca's 9 volumes should be in a larger library as well.

The MOHELNICKY in Ostrava is from the phone book.
http://phone.quick.cz Czech only.

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2007-01-09 16:58:03Z

No, I've not heard of the Leo Baca books. Where do I find them - in a library? Or is it online?

I just googled and found this link, telling more about Leo Baca: http://www.oxfordjctgenealogy.com/
I guess his books are only available at the LDS Library?

Are you saying that you found a Mohelnicky in the city of Ostrava? If so, from which source - Leo Baca's books, or Germans to America? And was there more information?

Thanks for the info,
Debbie

Re: Mohelnitzky websites

ZlaticaBeca — 2007-01-09 16:54:18Z

I have sent you an e-mail off the board.

The SKY, CKY is Czech and Slovak meaning that the surname is originated from a town by that name. SKI is Polish.
Hungarian " i " means from and " y " means of.
Mohelnice is in Slavic language not Hungarian.
Even if they met in "new land" their ancestral villages could be within 10 miles radius.

Re: Mohelnitzky websites

fuschia07 — 2007-01-09 16:43:44Z

Thanks for the info. I did find out that every Mohelnicky in the German phone book are all from the same family. The eldest was born in Märisch Ostrau in Czech Republic. Someone had told this person that the name Mohelnicky was possibly Hungarian, about 500 years ago, because of the "y" on the end.

I've traced the Ruskauff family to the early 1800's to the town Bissendorf in Kreis (county) Osnabrueck in the state of Niedersachsen, Germany. One group went to Holland, another group went to America.

My Mohelnitzky and Ruskauff great-great-grandparents found each other in Wisconsin where they married in 1872 in Richland County.

Re: Mohelnitzky websites

ZlaticaBeca — 2007-01-09 16:17:01Z

Debbie

Germany's phone book is listing MOHELNICKY.
www.dastelefonbuch.de
Have you traced your RUSKAUFF ancestor? Most of the time our first ancestors married within same region, religion (with few exceptions) but for sure one common language to communicate in.

Re: Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

ZlaticaBeca — 2007-01-09 16:11:41Z

Debbie

Have you looked into Leo Baca's 9 volumes of Bohemians to America? There is also Germans to America.
Do find MOHELNICKY in city of Ostrava, Czech Republic.

Mohelnitzky marriage records: Klein / Ottow

fuschia07 — 2007-01-08 23:11:46Z

A marriage record dated March 2, 1898 was found for "Katie R. Klein" and "H. W. Ottow" - this is "Kitty Klein" who is the daughter of Julia Mohelnitzky Klein.

Julia Mohelnitzky married Anton Klein on Feb. 25, 1873 at St. Joseph Catholic Church, Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. Julia Mohelnitzky Klein is a sister of Anton Mohelnitzky (born 1848, died 1893).

Anton Mohelnitzky married Mary Ruskauff on Feb. 6, 1872 at St. Anthony Catholic Church, Germantown, Richland County, Wisconsin.

Census records for 1900, 1910 and 1930 show "Catherine" Ottow, "Kathryn" Ottow, and "Catharine" Ottow. Her husband is listed as Henry W. Ottow. By 1930, Katie is widowed.

Here are the details for the marriage of Katie Klein and Henry Ottow:

Page: Milwaukee county, pre-1907, Volume 30, page 107, image 01806

No. 637
1. Full name of husband: H. W. Ottow
2. Full name of father of husband: J. "
3. Full name of mother of husband before marriage: S. Beadus [Beaders?]
4. Occupation of husband: Salesman
5. Residence of husband: Milwaukee
6. Birthplace of husband: Two Rivers, Wis.
7. Full name of wife previous to marriage: Katie R. Klein
8. Full name of the father of wife: Anton "
9. Full name of mother of wife, before marriage: Julia "
10. Birthplace of wife: Milwaukee
11. Time when marriage was contracted: Mar. 2 - 98 [March 2, 1898]
12. Place or town, and county where marriage was contracted: Milwaukee
13. The color of the parties: W [white]
14. By what ceremony contracted: C [Catholic]
15. Names of subscribing witnesses: G. Kline [Klein?]
J. H. Otten [Ottow?]
16. Name of person pronouncing marriage: Wm. F. Zuerner
17. Residence of person last named: Milwaukee
18. Date of certificate or affidavit of marriage: Mar 2 - 98 [March 2, 1898]
19. Date of registration: " 21 - 98 [March 21, 1898]
20. Any additional circumstances:
[signature] H A Verges [?]

More info about this family is here: http://violetblue20.googlepages.com/home

Mohelnitzky: Anton, Julia and Mary and their parents

fuschia07 — 2007-01-08 23:08:05Z

In a reference to Anton Mohelnitzky's two sisters, in a May 2, 1953 letter written by Frances Mohelnitzky Kussmann, she wrote, "Both sisters have died since - Julia Klein & Mary Schmidt."

I'm wondering if there may be old letters or postcards written to the Anton Mohelnitzky and Mary Ruskauff family from Anton's sisters, Julia and Mary. The letters would have addresses on them and other interesting facts, and the address could be traced by looking at old city directories, to see who lived there.

Another clue is a little vague, that Mary Mohelnitzky Schmidt's descendants lived at 52nd and Layton in Milwaukee. According to a current map, 52nd Street is no longer there (it's a park), and I don't know how I could find out what the address would be at the house on the corner (sometime before 1965). If I knew the address, I could look in a city directory for the name of the resident.

I searched and searched for Mary Mohelnitzky Schmidt's marriage record and so far found nothing. No Mohelnitzky is listed in the pre-1907 records, but lots of Schmidt/Schmitt names. And we don't even know if Mary was adopted after living in the orphanage, and maybe took another last name. If we are lucky, Mary's marriage record may list the birth town in Bohemia for her father and mother. (Julia's marriage record did not list the town).

I haven't found out what orphanage Julia and Mary were placed in. I'm thinking it may have been St. Rose Orphan Asylum in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Their brother, Anton, lived at St. Aemilian Orphan Asylum in St. Francis (now Milwaukee) from March 1858 to May 1, 1859.

And what really happened to Anton, Julia and Mary's parents? There is no record of death for them that I've found. Did they really come to the USA, or both die on the ship to America? Did the mother remarry? I haven't found a record for that either, not in Wisconsin anyway. And I have not found the family listed on a ship list; I think they may have immigrated about 1854.

~Debbie
http://violetblue20.googlepages.com/home

Anton Mohelnitzky - possible birth place

fuschia07 — 2007-01-08 23:02:57Z

Seltschan - Could this be Anton's birth place?

The name of the town where Vincent's brother Antonin Mohelnitzky lived in 1825 was Sedlicanech (Sedlcany).
The German spelling and Bohemian pronunciation for the town "Sedlcany" is "Seltschan" and would be pronounced, in a Bohemian dialect, as "Sel-tsch'n." A person hearing this dialect, may think the spelling would be "Sellgan" or "Zellgan."

From Wikipedia: Sedlčany (German: Seltschan) is a town in Central Bohemian Region, Czech Republic. It is located at 49°40′0″N, 14°25′0″E.

More info about Anton Mohelnitzky can be found here:
http://violetblue20.googlepages.com/home

Mohelnitzky - Anton and his sisters Julia and Mary

fuschia07 — 2007-01-08 23:01:09Z

Julia Mohelnitzky Klein and Anton Klein were married on Feb. 25, 1873 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. See Wisconsin Marriages, pre-1907, volume 13, page 0254.

Unfortunately, Julia is listed as "Julie Muchanetschki" in the Ancestry.com search results because that is the spelling of her name on the marriage certificate. Her last name is actually "Mohelnitzky."

Julia's parents are listed as Andreas Muchanetschki and Maria Muchanetschki. Obviously, "Muchanetschki" is incorrect and should be "Mohelnitzky" according to other documents for this family.

Julia and Anton Klein had two children: George Klein and Katy Klein. George was married to Ida M. Meunier on July 5, 1902 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. See Wisconsin Marriages, pre-1907, volume 34, page 0026. Julia Mohelnitzky is listed as the mother of George J. Klein.

Julia's brother, Anton Mohelnitzky, was a resident of St. Aemilian's Orphan Asylum located in St. Francis, Wisconsin. He was admitted there in 1858 (he was born in 1848). The orphanage has a file card with his name, birth year and admission date listed, but no other detailed records.

If anyone has found Mary Mohelnitzky's marriage or death certificate, let me know. It's possible she was married to a Mr. Schmidt or Schmitz.

For further information, please see my website:
http://violetblue20.googlepages.com/home

~Debbie

Anton Mohelnitzky - 1858 - St. Aemilian's Orphanage

fuschia07 — 2007-01-08 23:00:04Z

The date of Anton's immigration from Bohemia to America is not known at this time.

In March of 1858 Anton was placed in St. Aemilian's Orphan Asylum located in St. Francis (near Milwaukee), Wisconsin. This was a boys orphanage and was established in 1850.

Girls were placed at St. Rose Orphan Asylum which was founded in 1848. Anton's 2 sisters (Julia and Mary Mohelnitzky) may have been placed in St. Rose.

Information found on a file card found at St. Aemilian's orphanage:

* Name: Mohanitzky Anton.
* Born: 1847
* Father deceased: yes
* Mother deceased: yes
* Admitted: Mar. 1858
* Placed Out (Relatives, Strangers): 5/1/59
* Register: St. A.O.A.
* No. 138

To read more about my research, go here: http://violetblue20.googlepages.com/

~Debbie