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Miale

Posted: 19 Nov 1999 6:10PM GMT
Edited: 11 Sep 2002 11:54PM GMT
Welcome to the Miale message board. My ancestors originated in Francavilla Fontana, circa 1650 then moved to Oria (BR)

Miale

Susan Yoder (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jan 2000 7:35PM GMT
Hello Dick. I haven't researched the Miales, have just begun. Joseph (? 7/3/1885-3/1963), wife Irene, from New York City; a brother John Miale (?3/20/1877-7/15/1966). Understand there were cousins in Boston or elsewhere in New England, very nice people. The name is not very common, and I've heard it means pig in Italian. I do hope not. Regards.

Miale

Posted: 6 Jan 2000 9:35AM GMT
Edited: 11 Sep 2002 11:54PM GMT
First, pork is spelled maiale. Second, I don't think this family is related to me. I've been in contact with them on various occasions, but they've never supplied any data for comparision. I'd like to find out if there is a relationship however. You can contact me at dmiale@exis.net

Dick

Miale family

James J. McGrath, Ph.D. (View posts)
Posted: 9 Apr 2000 11:53PM GMT
Hello. I am a grandson of the John Miale, born 20 Mar 1877 in Ferrandina, Basilicata province in southern Italy and died on 22 July 1966 in Worcester, Ma He came to the U.S. with his parents in 1882, and after a 31-day joyage landed in New York City, where they lived for a number of years. He moved to New Jersey and then to Worcester, where he lived most of his life. He was a barber for over 60 years. His parents were Francesco Miale (1841-1903) and Rosa Garagusa (1843-1903), both born in Ferrandina and died in New York City. John's paternal grandparents were Luigi Miale,a ceramic maker, and Maria Spero.
John married Grazia DeCarlo (born 12
May 1879 in Avellino, Campania, Italy, and died in Sep, 1923, in Milbury, MA. John and Grace had 20 children, 10 of whom lived to maturity. One was my mother, Marguerite Maile (1907-1990), who married John Francis McGrath (1904-1987)
I also understand that the name means pig, and that may be of the reasons that most of the American generation of Miales have changed their surname to Maile or Mailey. I have also been told that the name change, which John sometimes used, came from a typo by the immigration clerk.
I have guite a lot of information of the Miale family and would be glad to share it, including hours of tape recorded conversa-tions with my mother;, who gives much detail about her father.

Miale

Susan Yoder (View posts)
Posted: 11 Apr 2000 5:06AM GMT
Hello Dr. McGrath. Thank you for posting.

I'm curious to know whether your grandfather had siblings.
My Miale friend remembers paternal cousins in Worcester
(and possibly Boston), but recalls their family name as
Valentine. Perhaps there is a connection through a
daughter or sister of your grandfather.

Have you found a basis for the pig story? I've found
nothing in the dictionary to explain it. Perhaps it
was argot of a particular era or place.

I sent off for copies of Social Security
applications from the SSA but later read that
they are only released to immediate family
members. Have you had any luck getting them?

Susan


Miale and Valentine

James J. McGrath, Ph.D. (View posts)
Posted: 11 Apr 2000 12:27PM GMT
Hi Susan. The Miales in the U.S. are a large family. Francesco Miale and Rosa Garagusa had three sons: John, Louis and Joseph, and two daughters: Lucia (m. Zizzo) and Carmel (m. DeTorre). Those offspring in turn had a total of at least 29 children who lived to maturity (in my mother's genera-tion). I have a lot of their names. My cousin Joe Zizzo of Andover, MA, has done extensive research on the family of Lucia Miale and Frank Zizzo.
The oldest daughter of John and Grace Miale was my aunt Rose. She married Enrico Valentino, who "Americanized" his name to Henry Daniel Valentine. The two sons and two daughters of Rose and Henry have lived all their lives in Worcester or in nearby towns. They are still living there:
Henry, Jr. m. Mary Anne Krause.
Robert G. m. Stella Zannotti
Florence E. m. William Kowaleski
Rose Genievive m. Victor Graboski

Miale - Valentine

Susan Yoder (View posts)
Posted: 7 May 2000 3:05PM GMT
Dr. McGrath, thank you for posting the Miale
information. I just received some social
security application copies that seem to confirm
a connection.

Your grandfather's younger brother Joseph,
who was born in New York City (7/3/1885 -
3/1963),and married Irene Maurello, had five
children.

Frank (12/24/1905 - 1/1974)
George (9/12/1907 - 12/19/1989)
Rose (?)
Louis (1/18/1913 - 6/26/1991)
Susan (7/17/1919 - 7/10/1997)

Rose is the only survivor, and she is in a
nursing facility in Florida, comatose after a
stroke.

Frank had one son, Frank, Jr.

George had one son, Walter.

Rose had no children.

Louis had one son, Peter (the Miale I know) and two
daughters, Carol and Linda. Of those, Carol has
three sons.

Sue had one son, Charles, with a large family,
and an adopted daughter whose name I don't recall.

But perhaps this is all known to you already.

I am wondering where Francesco's son Louis
located, if John's family settled in Mass.
and Joseph's in NYC.

You are fortunate indeed (or foresightful)
to have tape recordings of your mother's
recollections.

The pig story is very curious. I could not
find anything in the dictionary to support it,
and Dick Miale, who posted here earlier, said
it isn't true.

Joseph was also a barber (among other things, I
gather). Do you know what Francesco did for
a living? He was already 41 years old when
he came here, it seems. Do you know if other
family preceded them here?

Anyway, thank you again for posting.

Susan

Miale family

James J. McGrath, Ph.D. (View posts)
Posted: 28 May 2000 4:48PM GMT
Hello Susan. I see my reply to your last e-mail apparently was not transmitted. Thanks for the information you sent. It agrees with my records of the Miale family and adds a few things I did not know, such as the last name of Joseph's wife. I do have the names of spouses, in case Peter is interested. The Valentines and McGraths, among others, are Peter's second cousins.
I don't know where our grand-uncle Louis's (Luigi) and his family located, except that they are predominantly in Mass. Louis's grandchildren in Peter's generation (and mine) are as follows: his son Frank (1895-1957) married Mamie Combs and had six children: Louis, Florence, Mary and Frank Miale, Helen (Miale) Leo,and Katherine (Miale) Mannino. His daughter Rose (1896-1942) married Nicolas Garafolo and they had three sons. Louie's daughter Mamie (1899-1957) married Anthony Rofrano, who had a son, Douglas (m. Jean Masone) and a daughter Geraldine who married Reynald Davis. Louie's third daughter, Eleanor married Michael Perrette. They had three children, one of whom was named Marion.
Peter's great-grandfather Franchesco Miale was a mason who specialize in ceramic tile work.
As for the pig story. My mother, Margaret Miale, told me that she and her siblings were often teased by other children, who called them by the Italian word for pig, which is not miale, but is a close homonym. The way my mother prounced the teasing word was "my-oll" with the second syllable rhyming with doll.

Best wishes to my cuz.
Jim McGrath

Mary Ruth Parries Faw

Posted: 22 Oct 2000 11:51AM GMT
Edited: 4 Aug 2001 7:16PM GMT
MARY RUTH IS MY GRANDMOTHER HER MOTHER WAS
MAMIE COMBS PARRIES .MY GRANDYMOTHER MARRIED RUDY FAW HE WAS FROM NORTH WILKSBORO
MAMIE MARRIED HENRY LEE PARRIES. IS THE
SAME MARY THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP

John Mial

Posted: 5 Apr 2001 4:55PM GMT
Edited: 29 Jun 2001 2:05AM GMT
In my search for the French roots of my father's side of the family I read with interest the MIALE family stories. I cannot help but wonder if there is a connection.
The MIAL family came in the mid 1800'S and settled in Paterson, NJ where there was work in the silk industry.
In any case I found the PIG story interesting,MIAL rhymes with dial but it still amazes me how people mispronounce this simple last name.
Thanks for sharing,
Holly
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