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Koile DNA

Marge Mika (View posts)
Posted: 12 Feb 2006 6:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Koile
I am decended from Levi, Carlton, Keith Koile Line. I submitted a YDNA 25 marker test with family tree DNA. The results were NO matches with anyone in the database. When I say I submitted, it was not my sample it was my fathers sample, it has to be a direct decendant male not female to compare the surname. Also can't be an adopted male. As there hasn't been any indication of any adoption thru the line I can assume that the results are correct for Levi's line.
I went thru the Coil/Kyle group. The ones in the database so far are Kyle from Tyrone Ireland, Valentine Coil from Augusta, Va. and a few other Coil/Kyles that aren't matched as well.
(1)Levi Koile family is the one From Delaware Co, Indiana
1880 Levi G. (sic) is living in Buchana Co. Iowa age 37born Indiana sons Carlton E. age 7 born in Ia., Ralph age 6 born in Iowa, Samuel F. (sic) age 65 born in Ohio. (Has Samuel's parents born in Pa. however a previous census in Indiana has his father John, born in VA.) also 3 daughters and stepson Allen Oakley in the household.
Delware Co. In. George W. Koile age 32 b. IN wife Mary E.age 30 -2daughters. Ths is Levi's brother.

(2)William Koile's family is from Vigo Co. Indiana.
Sullivan Co., Indiana In the household of Abraham DeBaum, Sarah A. Koile Niece. She is decended from William Koile.
Clay Co., IN. C.W. Koile (I believe this is Charles) age 43 born Ohio. wife Lucy A. and son Edgar age 12 IN. (I would have to check previous census to see if he was the one that was adopted)

(3) Marion Co. Indiana shows another koile family Robert Koile born in Scotland age 30, wife Elizabeth age 26 born in England and son Robert age 6 born in New York. They are in the same household as Silas Moore and Charles Williamson and Frank Scott. This might be a boarding house. Robert is listed as an Ice Dealer.

(4) Reynolds Co. Missouri Samuel W. Koile age 30 born PA fathers and mothers birthplace PA. wife Mary C. 2 daughters born in MO and one son John L. age 1 month born in MO.
I dont' know who they decend from.

(5)Spanish Fork Utah Adelinda Lewis age 37 born in Illinois 5 daughters and one son Albert Koile age 13 born in Utah fathers birthplace USA mothers IL.
I think the Utah Koile's maybe using Koyle.
So there could be 5 distinct Koile families unless a connection could be made.
The problem with using Census as indication of surname spellings is that whoever did the census spelled it as they thought it should be spelled not how would be spelled. So variation could be from the census takers own family language or a foreigners accent when giving the info to the census taker.
The information was taken from transcribed census records which could account for some of the mistakes.
the DNA i submitted has atleast excluded some of the Coil/Kyle families as being related. However it doesn't include or exclude the differnt Koile goups as no DNA has been submitted from them for comparison.
Atleast I have a base line for Levi to continue to compare as new DNA submissions are done.

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 28 Dec 2006 9:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am the granddaughter of Carlton Koile. He was the grandson of Carl Koile son of Levi Koile. I have a lot of information, but perhapse you have things I do not. Are you will to share? Do you have information before Samuel? For you records please list that Carlton Koile died July 4th 2006. He is buried near Springfield MO, in a military cemetary. I attended the funeral and can get you more info if you need.

Nancy Koile

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 29 Dec 2006 1:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Nancy,
I have more info beyond Samuel. Email me and I can send it to
you, but it won't be this week, having our late Christmas
get together. catwithninelives which is a yahoo.com
address......did it this way so those email bots don't get
it tooo.....if you just send me an email then I can send it
directly to you instead of trying to post. I also have some
pictures you may be interested in.
I knew that Carlton had passed away but we haven't heard
anything from Betty, is she still around?
Marge

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 7 Jul 2007 5:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Coil, Crail, Stewart, Rouse, Smith, Stitt, Klingensmith/Klinglesmith, McKee, more...
Marge,

I hope you are still online and researching your Koiles and Crails. I am referencing these two posts by you:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ind...

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.koile/16/mb.ashx

You mentioned that your father participated in a Coil DNA project, so I am assuming that he has the surname of Koile, as did his father and his father's father, etc.

If you are related to the William S. Crail you posted information about, he is related to my Crails. I’m wondering if you might have some information about my UNKNOWN Coil.

I descend from James B. Crail (b. 1783 PA) and Margaret Stewart, their son Thomas J. Crail (b. 1811 KY) and UNKNOWN Coil, who either died after 1841 or they divorced. I cannot find a record of either and do not know her given name. However, her two daughters are named Sarah Ann Crail (my ancestor b. 1832 IN or OH, depending on the census) and Hannah J. Crail (b. 1841 IN). Sarah Ann Crail married John Rouse.

My Crails were in Shelby Co., Bartholomew Co., and Brown Co. IN. James B. Crail was born in PA, while his brother was born in MD. When my Sarah Ann Crail's mother died or divorced Thomas Jefferson Crail, he remarried to Catherine Lock in Rush Co. IN.

Lee Anne

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 26 Jun 2008 7:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Betty lives in Illinois now near her oldest daughter. The name of the town escapes me right now but Carlton's sister lives in Branson Mo.

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 26 Jun 2008 7:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Koile
Betty lives WITH Aila (her daughter) in River Forrest IL. Opal (Carlton's sister) still lives in Reed Springs MO.

What Koile info do you have rednrickontheriver? How are you related?

Are you Rick Miracle by any chance?

Nancy

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 26 Jun 2008 8:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Well since Opal is my mother and lives in Branson I guess that makes me ummmmmm Carltons niece. Next time leave a little nicer message and find out who the people are before you go correcting them with info that you dont know anything about.

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 27 Jun 2008 2:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Koile
Whoa! Calm down! There wasn't anything vengeful in my message. I'm sorry you read it that way. I really was simply adding the name of the town where Betty lives. The capital WITH was a typo, not a yell or in any way meant to be condescending. I also didn't realize you had already given Opal's location. Reeds Springs and Branson are right next to each other. Last I talked to Betty she said your mother was still living next to Carlton's and her old house. When I used to send mail there, the mailing address was Reeds Springs. Perhaps things have changed.

As for the last 2 questions they really were innocent questions. I haven't seen you in the messages before and wanted to simply see what you had to add to current research. I was actually excited to see Rick in your screen name, as I have been trying to contact Rick Miracle for some time now, as he had some extensive research notes. I now know exactly who you are and I am sorry dear cousin that you chose to see things in my previous message that simply weren't there. As for me, I am Carlton's Granddaughter, so I'm not a stranger and I do know a few things.

Warm Regards Cousin,
Nancy

Re: Koile DNA

Posted: 22 Oct 2009 12:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Stephie Koile
wow really our family is tis big i cant believe this

i never knew how many of us there was till now
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