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Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 3 Nov 2011 10:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Knuths, Knudsen, Knutsen, Knutson, Knutz, Knutzen
I'm a 5 generation descendant of a man from Schleswig-Holstein named Frederick Knu- (Knuths in America, but everyone agrees it was mistranslated.) He was born in 1832, married a Sarah/Dora Klocker, and died 1880. He came to Iowa sometime around 1860, and had many children.

It gets complicated when I look for any record of him in Europe, though, and speculative surnames include Knutz, Knutzen, Knudsen, Knutsen, Knutson, etc., though I've begun to wonder if his name wasn't Patronymic? Thanks in advance for all help.

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 3 Nov 2011 1:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Knutzen
I have a 1st cousin named Friedrich Knutzen born 10 Mar 1838 in Kleinsee bei Bergenhusen. His parents are Jürgen Knutzen born 10 Aug 1803 and Dorothea Margaretha Carlson, born about 1815 in Husum. During your searches, have you come across this site?
http://www.erfde.com/index-english.html

Yvonne

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 7 Nov 2011 6:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks so much! That's the first time I've seen that site, and I'm doing a good bit of looking around. I think the Fred you mentioned could very well be the one I'm looking for. I'll keep you posted. Thanks,

Elliot

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 17 Nov 2011 6:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
I've done a fair bit of research on the site you've suggested, but haven't found anything definite. You don't happen to have any other information, do you? I know he emigrated to the USA about 150 years ago, he was married to either a Sarah or a Dorathea Klocker (spelling highly contested), he had a handful of kids, and he died 1880 in Iowa.
Thanks, anticipating your reply,
Elliot

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 27 Jan 2012 5:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
we are also 5th generation knuths. I started research back in 1984 the old fashioned way telephone, family interviews, letters. but I put it on the back burner. Have since divorced however by children are interested in their ancestory so am now on ancestory.com to find info but haven't found any new info. Thru a family bible I was able to get much info but bible is no longer in exsitance to my knownledge. I can tell you that Fredrick Knuths cemetary plot was purchased by henry knutz. I know the family name was changed from origonal when coming to america however Irven didn't remember from what. I was told they did come from germany and came to america for something other than economic gain (whatever that was supost to mean). I have not been able to find anything on fredrick. also have the name sarah as a wife but do know doris kloco was mother of irvin. I have several pictures but have not yet gotten them dug out to post but hope to do in the near future. I was also told of the name valintine Paul knuths but do not know how he fits in . If you find any info on fredrick please contact me. after searching for 28years i'm pulling my hair out. you can email me at djtrenary@hotmail.com

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 28 Jan 2012 10:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,

That's really interesting stuff. Do you happen to have any clues on whether they emigrated from Schleswig-Holstein or Mecklenburg? I've heard either, with almost equal consistency. I'm intrigued by the fact that they came for something other than economic gain, although that makes me think they may have been Danish, quite possibly. The time they immigrated was a time of huge conflict between the Danish nationals and the Germans, and if they in were in fact Danish-identifying (Knutz is a surname found in south Denmark almost as much as in north Germany), they may have preferred the idea of leaving the situation entirely and coming to the states, like so many Germans and Scandinavians did around that period (sorry, I'm a history buff.) I'll try to keep in touch if I find anything, and I'd love it if you do the same!

Elliot

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 28 Jan 2012 10:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Use the map feature look up mecklanberg schleswig holstein germany. they r both right. fredrick states on gov.firms he is from mecklenberg wich is in the old schlesig hilstein state terratory. will send u tree soon

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 6 Jan 2013 4:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sophia Maria Dorothea Klockow was born 9 May 1841 in Garwitz, Mecklenberg-Schwerin to Johann Joachim Friedrch Klocow and Maria Dorothea Markwardt. I have traced the Klocow family back to 1500s. Previously, I only knew Dora as Mrs. Scott from Salem, Oregon, and several similar references. It was so nice when I found her on the 1920 census today, that the record was flagged. I did not know the Knuths were my cousins either. The Klocow and Markwardt families first settled in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. Then later some went to Wright County Iowa. As far as spellings they are all over the page. for example Kloco, Klocow, Glockow. So, I am sure Knuth is the same.

It is wonderful to meet a cousin, I hope you have some hair left.

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 6 Jan 2013 4:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
This is from a quesry on the Klocow message board:
Would like to exchange information on descendants of Peter Klockow and his wife Catharina Becker from Alt Damerow, Mecklenburg-Schwerin. They had one know son:

Peter Klockow b. abt 15 Feb. 1646 in Domsuehl, died 7 Jan. 1709 in Damerow. Wed Sylcka Baumann (1647-8 Apr. 1721).
My ancestor was son Christopher "Stoffer":

Stoffer Klockow (2 May 1682-29 Sept. 1745) Wed 10 Nov. 1711 to Anna Pingel (abt 1691-1 Oct. 1745). My ancestor was Hans:

Hans Klockow (9 Sep. 1715-23 Aug. 1796) Wed 11 Feb. 1745 to Margaretha Krueger (11 Feb. 1720 Garwitz-27 May 1778 Damerow). My ancestor was son Joachim Daniel:

Joachim Daniel Klockow (21 Feb. 1755-17 Jan. 1817) Wed 12 Jan. 1817 to Catharina Elisabeth Zachow (6 Aug 1767 Domsuhl-5 Dec. 1826 Garwitz). My ancestor was Johann Joachim "Friederich" Klockow:

Fred Klocow (26 Nov, 1807 Garwitz-1886 Iowa) His two wives were Markwardt sisters from Malchow. Fred first wed Maria Dorothea Markwardt (25 Jan 1814 Malchow-11 Jan. 1853 Garwitz). They had four children. He remarried 10 Mar. 1853 to widow Louisa Dorothea Fredericka Markwardt Haase (4 May 1825 Malchow-1893 Iowa) I descend from the younger sister. Fred's surviving children were:

Christian David "Friederich Klocow: (8 July 1836 Malchow-22 May 1924 Iowa Falls, Iowa) He married 5 Dec. 1866 Ft. Atkinson, WI to Sabra Lucinda Farver (26 Dec. 1842 Wayne, Ohio-14 July 1893 Steamboat Rock, IA). He rewed to widow Sarah B. Manley Shaner.

Sophia Maria Dorothea Klocow (9 May 1841 Garwitz-? USA) Wed Mr. Scott and lived in Salem, Oregon in 1920.

Anna Maria Dorothea Klockow (21 Apr. 1850 Garwitz-9 Jan. 1932 Vernon Twsp, IA) Wed in Manitowoc, WI 29 Mar. 1869 to Charles J. Gragert (24 Aug Stewartby Plow, Germany-1 Feb. 1923 Vernon Twp, IA).

Sophia Hanna Dorothea Klockow (4 Dec. 1853 Garwitz-24 Oct. 1920 Dows, IA. She wed 7 Apr. 1873 in Dows to Fred Specht (12 Nov. 1848 Nortmoor, Niedersachsen-5 Apr. 1925 Dows). They were my great-great grandparents.

Re: Frederick Knu- (Help me!)

Posted: 16 Feb 2013 3:28AM GMT
Classification: Query
I found him. He was born in the same village as his wife. His birthday is 2 June 1832 vice March. The name was Knuths, no change when they came to America. I am still interested in contacting this family his wife Dorothea Klocow was my great-great grandmother's sister. I will also search back on the Knuths line. I really enjoy contact with distant cousin researching the family tree.
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