no i've never found him.i think he slipped through the net.for the first census i'm sure this could have happen ?.i've got a death certificate for him 12/1/1847 91yrs old,a blacksmith.in attendance was john jubb of fall head.this would have been his grandson,the illegitimate son of his daughter elizabeth hinchcliffe.they were probably all living together ?.
some people think he was in sheffield in 1841 but that john looked like he was living with a family headed by his son john jubb,a cutler,with a wife mary & daughter emma.