hi peter, been reading your entry from 2000 long time to reply but i ve only just got into this family tree thing! you mentioned an ernest and i have an ernest who was my great grandads brothers son. ernests father was thomas? and my gr.grandad was edward d.ivill their parents were john and mary (nee bell) the ernest i know of was born 1892. he married margaret catterall. is this the same one? hope this helps julie kelly (ivill)