for all you ironsides out there, i thought i'd post this family tree i found in a booklet i aquired from a used bookstore. the list starts with 7 of the last saxon kings of england ---the ones with nicknames are the kings:
egbert (the great) ad 802-839
ethelwulf ad 839-858
ethelbald 858-860
ethelbert 860-866
ethelred1 866-871
alfred (the great) 871-889
edward (the elder) 899-924
athelstan 924-940
edmund 1 940-946
edred 946-956
edwy 956-959
edgar 959-975
edward(the martyr) 975-978
ethelred (the unready) 978-1014
edmund ironside 990-1017
alfred (the aethling)
edward (the confessor) half brother of edmund ironside
the scot's (main) ironside line:
john ironside born 1666
john born 1669
francis 1733-1816
william 1776-1843
william born 1806
william 1836-1881
william edmund first baron of ironside born 1880
edmund oslac born 1921

the dorset line
robert ironside minister of long bredy.dorset died 1625
sons: gilbert bishop of bristol
john
ralph 1590-1683
gilbert 1649-1715
ralph
thomas 1768-1845--marriet harriet,a lady of lyme regis died 1856
whose eldest son was thomas 1793 - 1891 married amy helyar
thomas had six chirldren besides theadore
theadore 1847-1921 married herriet berry 1848-1901
ernest thomas eldest son of theadore born 1878
ernest thomas 1878-born, married fanny perry 1901
ernest william born 1903 hale end essex and married margaret jane sherman robinson 1926
ernest thomas had four other chirldren
the only son of ernest william was
leslie edmund born at farnborough,hants 1930
list a: comprimising the other chirldren of thomas ironside:
mary matilda born 1843 , married william sangster of airdrie and had several chirldren
julia helyar born 1850, and had several issue
francis herbert 1853-1874 died a bachelor,buried at birkenhead
sarah ann born 1857
tom 1860-1860
henry 1861-1861

list b: also chirldren of thomas ironside
amy sarah born 1876 married charles henry perry 1900 issue:
constance amy born 1903 married edgar a. mcniel 1829
edward ironside born 1905 married doris v. griffen 1929 issue:
marjorie 1932
arther payne born 1881 married annie cooper 1905-1922 issues:
gladys emili born 1907 married william george evans issue:
elizabeth ann born 1937
christopher john, born 1940
herbert theadore born 1910 married phyllis m. kenniston 1934 issue:
jean born 1935
susan born 1943
dennis arthur born 1914 married rosa dixon harris 1938
phyllis annie born 1914 married walter griffin 1939
reginald sidney born 1917 married inez elizabeth rose 1942 issue:
david john arthur 1943
rosemary jane born 1947
william henry born 1882 married elizabeth wells 1911 issue:
audrey mary born 1912 married arthur sydney jaques issue:
brenda elizabeth 1943
olive born 1913 married percy frederick edwards issue:
micheal ironside born 1943
wallace berry born 1884 married margaret james died 1929 (he) issue: donald born
olive mabel victoria born 1887 married edmund frank white issue:
benard john born 1914 married majorie joan powter 1945
howard james born 1890 married gladys elizabeth nicholls (otherwise collis) issue:
howard, born 1941 married muriel grace silcock 1939 issue:
howard john born 1941
kathleen grace born 1942
list c: chirldren of ernest thomas ironside:
leslie cecil born 1905- 1933, died a spinster
wallace leonard born 1907 married nellie scaman 1937
issue:
peter john born 1940
john leonard born 1944
marjorie born 1946
howard perry born 1910 married margaret woodstock issue:
richard born 1947

Hi Lorne,
Does the phrase "In Hoc Signo Vinces" mean anything to you?

no, then again, i don't know a word of latin, maybe it was the familie's motto in the book, but i have since gave it to a freind, who has a freind by the name of micheal ironside. (i told him to send it to him).
one thing in the book, that i forgot to mention: there was a line of the family whose history was lost to the writer, i think he called it the dover line. the guy i sent the book to hailed from canada, tis possible that he is of that line.----are you british? or canadian? or otherwise? have you any canadian relations?

Hi Lorne,
Many thanks for passing that book on to a possible relative. You see,being an Ironside(my mother's maiden name) I too have one of those books (currently mislaid...buried deep in years of accumulation!). From memory it has a dark blue hard cover, into which is imprinted an emblem consisting of a cross, with crosslets, over which is enscribed the words "IN HOC SIGNO VINCES" ..... roughly meaning "Beneath This Cross I Conquor".
I vaguely remember this to have been reputed to be King Alfred's motto.
Yes, I am British, and live in "Wessex" ....Alfred's territory! ... not far from Winchester, and Chippenham, both of which were Alfred's strongholds.
Don't know of a "Dover" line, but apparantly there was some emigration to Canada from the Scottish line.
Regards ....Mike

Yes, there was immigration to Canada. My great grandfather, William John Ironside (b. 1875, Tarves) and his wife, Margaret Mearns Robb, immigrated to Canada about 1912. William's sister, Jessie Ann Park Ironside and brother, George Clubb Ironside, also came to Canada. Their parents were John Wilson Ironside and Jessie Adie.

I too have a copy of the book.

Karen

Hi there; Just read your post about the family tree in the book dating back to 802. I'm interested in the scot's line from William 1776 - 1843. I have traced our Ironside line -through my dad's line back to a William Ironside (born in that general time frame) who married Isabel Tocher, and the family is based around Arbroath, Dundee, Forfar and a place named Drumdollo. The were an abundance of blacksmiths and ironworkers in their occupations, as well as crofters, weavers and tailors. I have hit the proverbial brick wall with this William, and being in Canada, haven't got the resources to go any further to search for him. Would you be able to tell me if there's any further info in the book on that particular William. I don't recognize the names in your line that came to Canada, but I'd be interested in whether we have any cousins in common. Thanks for your time.... Mina (Ironside) McGean

My great grandfather was a blacksmith from Tarves/Fyvie/Methlick, Aberdeenshire. I have been able to go back to James Ironside b. abt. 1749 m. to Helen Gray. I believe our familly is some kind of descendant of Edgar (The Aethling) as the book states... Edgar retired to Buchan in Scotland at a place called Ironside in the parish of New Deer, near Peterhead, where the Ironside Family has been ever since.

Unfortunately, the book does not have much on the main Ironside line. There is a gap between Edgar (d. 1093-1100) and John (b. 1666). Then:
John b. 4-6-1669
Francis b. 1733, d. 14-8-1843
William b. 21-10-1776, d. 14-8-1843
William b. Nov 1806
William b. 1836, d. 16-1-1881
William Edmund b. 6-5-1880 (First Baron Ironside)
Edmund Oslac b. 21-9-1924

That's it. Karen

HI,I am also a member of the Ironside clan,live in australia,some one may make a connection with some of this imfo my g/father was william ironside from scotland (b around 1890) he married margaret clark in australia,they had two sons Robert and Fredrick my father,he married my mother Freda Hansen,they had two children,myself and my brother Norman he has a daughter Lisa

Hi Karen, what book are you refering to? Is it the family tree compiled by Ernest Thomas Ironside(no 12 Dorset line)about 60 years ago? If so, I also have a copy from my father; it has a blue cover with the Ironside crest on, a cross with crosslets and the motto 'In hoc signo vinces'. Would like to hear from you.

Yes. That is the book. Unfortunately, it didn't help me much in my search. I have been able to go back to James Ironside b. 1749, Darnabo, Fyvie, Aberdeen.

Hi Kooran. Many thanks for your reply. It is good to know that there is another copy of the family tree,as it is an important document. I am probably biased, as I am in it!!
Regards Jean

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about the origin of kooran family

what a great deal of information you have found. My greatgrandmother was Mary Matilda 1843 and I have her photo album from Chideock in Dorset with a few names and I will now look it outand see who I can find. I had never heard about the book. Thanks

have we a connection? my great grandmother was mary matilda
born 1843 who is on the dorset list

Hello,

my late much loved mother's maiden name was Ironside. She was related to Field Marshall William Edmund Ironside and I have her family tree going back to 1636.

I would be most interested in hearing from any of her relatives, and would particularly like to know of any still living.

Regards

John Willis

Hi djurisic1,
Your Gt Grandmother Mary Matilda had a brother Theodore(1847-1921)who was my Gt Grandfather....
Have whole tree on Genes Reunited.
Regards... Mike

yes I know mary matilda had a brother Theo butI am not a member of genes united Is there some other way of seeing what you have found

Hi djurisic1,
Mary & Theodore's parents were Thomas(1816-1891) & Amy(Emma) Helyar, daughter of John Helyar the local baker in the village.... Chideock, Dorset.
I wonder which of Mary & William's eight children you are descended from.......

my great grandmother was Theodore's sister and their
parents were Thomas and Emma from Chideock.Thomas's
parents came from Long Bredy and his father was Thomas and his mother was called Hannah.