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William Iiams (1640 -1703)/Robert I'Ans connection

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Re: William Iiams (1640 -1703)/Robert I'Ans connection

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 7:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
As you say, his descendants in England, were J'ans,"frequent
-ly mis-transcribed", which was the case back then as the J and the I were actually, then, INTER CHANGEABLE. So the J'ans was often written I'ans. And many of those English J'ans/I'ans DID end up in CORNWALL, AND DEVON. And William Eyoms/I'ans of Maryland,USA, never did clarify if he was a son, grandson or great-grandson, but DID say he was of Robert I'ANS (which by SOUND alone MATCHES Eyoms-which the clerk simply wrote as he heard it).

AS PROOF THE I'ANS SPELLING/NAME DID EXIST, AND WAS OF DEVON AND CORNWALL.....


The baptism of Charlotte Eliza Rawleigh I’ans was recorded in the register for the parish of Whitstone, Cornwall, on 6 December 1782. Very few of Charlotte’s papers survive, but Lois Ijams Hartman, a distant American relative, has recorded some information about the I’ans family in a privately published booklet, "Remembered in This Land".

Charlotte was one of seven children of Colonel Wrey I’ans and Frances Rawleigh. The dates of birth of her brothers, John, Edward, and Thomas, are unknown, but her older twin sisters, Florence and Frances, were born in 1776 and her younger sister Catherine in 1785.

Charlotte’s ancestors, like Hawker’s, originally came from Devon and her great-grandfather, Thomas I’Ans, worked at one time as a ‘customs collector’ in Bideford.

Thomas I’ans probably purchased Old Whitstone House in the early eighteenth century.

Person: I'ans, John Rawleigh (1793 - 1793
John Rawleigh I'ans, rector of Bicton, Devon, presented by his father Colonel I'ans, who had purchased the advowson of Lord Rolle

CONSOLIDATED INDEX TO DEVON WILLS - List of Probate Courts and their assigned codes:
Surname First Name(s) Place County/Country Occupation/
Status Year Type Form Prob. Court Source Reference Note

I'ans Edward City of London LND 1772 W ab PCC MUR1 Vol. 19 137 Taverner; formerly of Whitstone, Cornwall; had lands in Bideford
I'ans Richard Dix DEV 1772 A co PCC ACA Sep
I'ans Thomas DEV 1794 A co PCC ACA May
I'ans Thomas Instow DEV gentleman 1753 W co DRO-W 1577 M/W1 1753-59

YOUR OWN INFO, STATES (PARAPHRASING):

Janes, or Janns (James Janes, Mayor of Dublin, 1593, son of Robert Janes, or Janns, Master of the Ordnance in Ireland, 1559. Visit. city of Dublin, 1607)

Robert J'ans also went by the name Robert Delman or Dellman alias Yans and Burke identifies Robert Yans with Robert J'ans

AND NOTE THAT DURING THIS ERA----SPELLING WAS NOT FIXED----I's and J's were USED INTERCHANGEABLY!

Name: Robert J'ANS
Sex: M
Birth: BEF 1515 in Kent, England
ALIA: Robert Delman
Occupation: Master of Ordnance (Ireland) to Queen Elizabeth
Death: BEF 1553 in Tristernagh
ALIA: Robert Yans
Occupation: Privy Councillor for Ireland under Elizabeth I
Occupation: Bailiff and Sheriff of Dublin 1547
Occupation: gunner 1536 Tower of London
Occupation: collector of customs ABT 1534 Dublin, Irela


*****NOTE: Robert Jans, two worshipful gentlemen.....according to "Notable British Families" he was ****Sir Robert I'ans******

Our "William Eyoms/Ians" was to have been born abt. 1640 in Stratton.He died 29 Jul 1703 in Anne Arundel Co.,Maryland (USA).

RESEARCH HAS SHOWN:

William was born 1652 in Stratton, Cornwall, England, and immigrated ca 1665 to Anne Arundel Co., Maryland. A leading proponent of this theory is Lois Hartman, who spent considerable time in England, and
*****found a fragmented pedigree of the family whose name was spelled I'Ans****. Most of these individuals lived in Cornwall and North Devon.

The earliest record was that of David Ion date from 1370. The family came to prominence when a coat of arms was presented to Robert I'Ans of Whitstone by Elizabeth, her Master of Ordnance and Her Majesty's Privy Council in Ireland, whose family lineage dated to 1640. The original William is thought to be a grand or great-grandson of this Robert I'Ans

IGI INDEX SHOWS:

William I'ANS....THOUGH THIS is NOT OUR WILLIAM---it shows that the I'ANS Name did EXIST in this area in those earlier times (1600s-1700s)
> Sex: M
> Event(s):
> Christening: 15 Jun 1757
> Ilfracombe, Devon, England
> Parents:
> Father: Thomas I'ANS
> Mother: Margt

So i am NOT CONTRADICTING YOUR info On Robert J'ans/I'ans, i am simply saying that no one has the ENTIRE STORY--but that he still very well can be the ancestor of our William Eyoms.


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