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BIZARRE NEW TWIST IN IERADI/IERARDI/IERACHE DNA RESULTS

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BIZARRE NEW TWIST IN IERADI/IERARDI/IERACHE DNA RESULTS

D.Michael Iradi (View posts)
Posted: 30 Aug 2003 11:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
My own DNA results have finally come in since I've last littered this bulletin board with suggestions for various individuals with the surnames Ieradi/ierardi/Ierache, etc., etc., etc. to be genetically tested, so as to reveal whether or not these are variations of the same family name, or in fact different, unrelated lines (you might remember that my own last name was originally spelled in Calabria "Ieradi.")

The DNA testing, is very simple, painless, quick, relatively economic (it makes a great birthday or Christmas present for interested loved ones...) - and no, I don't get a commission, or anything else for that matter aside from my own personal, genealogical satisfaction. Furthermore, all results are confidential, and are released to no one without the donor's permission. There are several companies worldwide which offer this mail-order service, and I happened to choose the American based www.familytreedna.com for my own testing, where my results are stored.

My y-chromosome "Ieradi" basic gene testing (only the basic 12 markers, not the 25 markers of the advanced test) have revealed that of all the people tested so far and stored in their rather large database, I am the only one thus far who's turned up with this exact genetic "fingerprint." What this means is that I'm the first one so far to be tested, and none of you other Ieradi/Ierardi/Ierache males have been tested and catalogued yet - so there's no one to compare me with and match me to genetically in - say - the last thousand years or so.

Until the rest of you decide to be tested, there will still be no way to determine whether the aforementioned surnames are actually one-in-the-same, or even whether or not ALL IERADIS are related to each other or not. If you only have one orange, you can't compare it to an apple, or even another orange (or ANYTHING for that matter!)

So at this stage in the game, the only thing I can report are the bizarre results of MY OWN genetic testing, which might not be your own - even if your name is also "Ieradi." Then again, it might be - who knows?... Get tested and find out.

While no "close relatives" match has yet been made (although it may be made in the future as more people seek to be tested), a "Most Recent Ethnic Origins" determination HAS BEEN MADE based on a sole match with one other (un-named) individual, who is catalogued in a worldwide database.

Now mind you, when they're talking "Most Recent" ethnic origin, they're talking in the last one or two thousand years or so. But Hey, two thousand years ago Europe was already choc-full of people: Rome had a population of 1 million; the British Isles, France and Germany were filled with Celts (Britons, Gauls, and Tacitus' "Germans" respectively); the Golden Age of Greece had long since past, etc. Even that "Ice Man" from the Alps was dated at over 4000 years old.

So what turned out to be my (Calabrian) "Most Recent Ethnic Origin?" NATIVE SIBERIAN! I'm not talking Russians sipping frozen vodka next to an oil rig - I'm talking Asiatic people with furry hats hunting caribou living in hide-tents, herding yaks and hitting the dirt when that Tunguska thing exploded! (Ok, long BEFORE that thing exploded, but you get the picture.) And we're actually talking not all that long ago either (relatively speaking); we're talking within the span of recorded human history, and possibly only since the Middle Ages.

And it gets weirder: a more distant Ethnic (Haplogroup) examination (which shows the ancient migration of humans over - say - the last ten to twenty thousand years) shows that my Ice Age "Ieradi" ancestors originally were based in Indonesia! Now remember: Europe still had people (i.e. modern humans, not Neanderthals) at this point, as archeological finds at Marseilles and Toulouse France clearly show.

This Haplogroup "migration path" is determined by the examination and comparison of unique genetic "mutations" my "Ieradi" ancestors picked up, and passed on to their descendants along their long journey. From only my simple 12 marker test, my unique collection of mutantions seems to possibly, possibly suggest to me (if I'm interpreting/torturing them correctly), and lead me to speculate, that like apparently all modern human beings, my ancestors came "out of Africa," but along the way picked up a rather unusual mutation which is most prevalent in the population of Gambia today.

From there, they made their way along the southern rim of Asia, until they settled in Indonesia (which is where the highest number of my same, unique recorded mutations are still found today (i.e. 4). Actually, the one modern population which most consistently displays these same 4 "Indonesian" mutations is the aboriginal peoples of Taiwan.

While ancient humans seem to have scattered in all different directions from Indonesia (into Australia, Taiwan, Polynesia, etc.), my own ancient "Ieradi" ancestors appear to have gone northward into China, where they picked up another mutation found today in the Han Chinese.

From there, it seems unclear to me if they they then migrated still northwestward until they ended up in Siberia (as my sole Most Recent Ethnic Origin "match" might seem to indicate), or whether they migrated directly westward across Asia, and became the nomadic people of Central Asia. Some of these Central Asians may have then migrated Northweastward, becoming the ancestors of my "match" in Siberia, and some of them may have moved still westward, becoming my own ancestors. In any event, they probably ended up in Central Asia at some point, since another mutation my own ancestors picked up along the way is most prevalent today in the Karakalpak of Uzbekistan. Still another mutation is most identified today with Crimean Tartars.

My "Ieradi" ancestors must have then made their way southwestward from the Crimea down the south of the Balkan Penninsula, which would explain the inclusion of a mutation mostly identified with todays Greeks. From there, they made their way to Southern Italy, as the two final mutations in my basic 12 marker test indicate; one mutation generally associated with Italy, and another specifically associated with Sicily (don't forget: Calabria was one of the "Two Sicilies" in the "Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.") This is not to suggest in any way that the ancestors of all or most Southern Italians got there by this route. To the contrary, as already discussed, there is evidence of habitation along the northern rim of the Mediterranean for tens of thousands of years.

Once the Middle Ages came around, all Europeans eventually decided to use fixed surnames rather than traditional patronymics and "Ieradi" (or something like it) became my ancestors surname.

I will eventually upgrade to a 25 marker test, which will help "fine-tune" my ethnic origins and migration route. I can be emailed directly at d.m.iradi@wanadoo.fr with any further questions - D.Michael Iradi

SubjectAuthorDate Posted
D.Michael Iradi 30 Aug 2003 5:42PM GMT 
Denise 2 Sep 2003 7:12PM GMT 
D.Michael Iradi 29 Sep 2003 10:31PM GMT 
Anthony Ieradi 10 Nov 2003 1:40AM GMT 
D. Michael Iradi 10 Nov 2003 4:06AM GMT 
DENISE 10 Nov 2003 2:39PM GMT 
Anthony Ieradi 14 Nov 2003 7:47PM GMT 
D. Michael Iradi 14 Nov 2003 9:05PM GMT 
Anthony Ieradi 15 Nov 2003 12:06AM GMT 
D. Michael Iradi 15 Nov 2003 4:04AM GMT 
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