HI... Francine is my aunt... she passed away several years ago. I'm pretty sure that Noel and Francine did have children together. I will have to double check with my mom but I believe that they had at least 2 children.. mike and Nadine ! Francine's paternal grandfather's name was George W Ice and was married to Sarah(flemming) Ice. one of their children's name was Zona Belle Ice (my maternal grandmother) who married Corla Landis Mason in WVa.I hope that helps.