Howard/native american connection?
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Surnames: Howard
My great grandmother was Viola Mae Howard b. 5 Feb1906 in Verdigre NE and my great aunt (her daughter) says that Viola was raised on a reservation and was either Sioux or Blackfoot. I was wondering if anyone else has heard a similar Howard/native american story? Feel free to email me, and thanks for any information in advance :)
Linda
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i have howard that are belive to be native american but they are cherokee my gg grandfather and grandmother was william and martha howard they live in mo at pinevill mo and white rock mo william was a blacksmith in white rock mo dont what happen to william but martha remarried in 1897 to a miller martan in pineville mo and william fathe was thomas howard dont know what his mother name was also william was born in nc in 1811 thank you if any of this help you let me know
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Dawn Dowling
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Posted: 12 Feb 2002 3:51PM GMT
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Surnames: Howard, Wray, Puffer, Smith,
Hello, I too have native cherokee history as my gr. grandmother was born on the reservation in Tulsa, Tulsa county oklahoma. Her name was Leona Mae Howard Wray. Her parents were clinton Lee Howard and Ida jane clark Howard. Clinton and Ida jane had 8 children Leona mae, Lee Clinton, Edna Mae, Herman, Carl, Woodrow Wilson, Mavis Louisa, and Herbert Oscar "Blackie" Howard. Ida Jane Died December 18, 1936 in Tulsa Oklahoma. My grandmother died 3/9/1983. After Investigiating Our family heritage my cousins were finally able to proclaim my grandmother a Native cherokee Indian almost 3 years ago, right before the Cherokee Indian claims were closed for application. It' a really neat family story, as grandma betty tells it. Do any of these howard childrens names sound familiar to you. I have just begun my search, as my cousins only focus seems to have been on proclaiming her a native american, and my focus is finding more about the little roots and branches, and not just the Big roots per say, Which that of course with their time crunch, before the deadline, was very much so an accomplishment! Thanks so much for any information. Dawn P.s. The howards did move to west plains missouri in abt. I believe 1894, where my gr. grandmother met my gr grandfather. Robert Earl Wray, and they got married on horseback, as my grandmother tells it! I think its awesome.
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i didnt know they closed that can you still be put on the rolls if you have the roll number that is what iam looking for i have the one for william but i want to make sure it is the right william my grandmother had told me story about tham all coming up the trail of tears and how they all was were will to do in ga and tn and nc i have be to ok and look up some and i found a marthe e ross that merried a thomas howard and they had a son name william but i haven be able to get back down there iam going to tulsa this week end there is a plase were you can put your name on a book and if anyone is looking for the same family some time they will right to you will i got to go thank you martha e smith
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Kim Foltz
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Posted: 13 Feb 2002 7:29PM GMT
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Classification: Query
Surnames: Howard, Drottz
Dawn, I read your post with interest. I have been searching for my ggrandfather, Clinton Howard, wife Ida Mae Drottz. He was born 1854 Illinois. Do you have any further info on Clinton Lee Howard and Lee Clinton Howard? Do you know if there was a daughter named Mary, b 1859, in the family, who, along with Clint, disappeared at a young age? According to story from my father Clint was abducted/raised by unknown Indian nation at @ age 5 so @ 1859. I tracked Clint after he appeared in Iowa 1880 forward. In 1885 and 1895 "Mary E Howard" is listed with him, possibly sister, but unable to verify. Mary vanished b/t 1895 and 1900. When I asked my uncle about her all he would say was "oh you know bout her? Nobody knows what become of her". Clint's marriage record lists his parents as Rezin Howard and "Wilson". His death certificate lists parents unknown. His obituary indicates arriving in Iowa at a young age, with a friend, on horseback, and not knowing parents. Thanks to a cousin's friend he was located on the 1925 census, where it lists his mother as Sarah A. Wilson. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have a picture of Clint and his wife Anna, on my family history site, at http://members.tripod.com/khoward0723/
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Dawn Dowling
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Posted: 18 Feb 2002 3:49PM GMT
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Classification: Query
Surnames: Howard, Wray
I dont know but we might have 2 different clinton howards here, as my grandmothers information says Clinton lee Howard born 10/8/1863 place Mo. died 11/24/1933 place Prairie Twp., Jackson co. mo. marriage 7/30/1904 in Vinita, Craig Co, Indian territory oklahoma Father william M. Howard mother samantha. clinton wife Ida Jane Clark born 4/4/1886 chetope, labetta co. ks. christened Tulsa, tulsa co. oklahoma, died 12/18/1936 tulsa tulsa co ok. buried memorial gardens , tulsa ok. father elias Clark mother Laura mae puffer children Leona mae Howard, my gr. grandma, born 5/7/1905 tulsa married robert earl wray Lee clinton howard born 11/28/1906 tulsa ok. died 9/23/1982 cleveland, Pawnee co. ok. Nursing home. buried 9/27/1982 tulsa co. ok. memorial park cem. spouse mattie isma Worthington married 6/7/1928 tulsa ok. Edna mae howard 7/1/1908 chelsea rogers o.k. died 2/26/1978 tulsa hostpital osteopathic buried 3/11/1978 tulsa memorial gardens spouse gaylen gorsuch Herman howard 2/14/1910 died 11/5/1983 spouse grace mae cordray, marriage 12/24/1932 tulsa Carl Howard 2/5/1912 Pryor, mayes co. ok. died 9/18/1961 tulsa, buried 9/20/1961 tulsa o.k. memorial gardens Woodrow wilson howard 4/28/1914 pryor o.k. spouse willie odell cordray mavis louise Howard 9/28/1916 pryor, ok. Herbert Oscar "Blackie" Howard pryor ok spouse mae martin married in cooke co. texas So waht do you think? I have more dates, just not enought time or room to apply them. let me know, dawn
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Re: Howard/native american connection?
Classification: Query
Surnames: Howard, Bauer, Robbins, Floyd, Carpenter
I am also related to Viola Mae Howard, born 5 Feb 1906 near Verdigre, Nebraska. Although there is an Indian Reservation near Verdigre, I am not aware of the Howard's having a "native" connection. Please E-mail me - Edna Barnes FWBarnes@aol.comThanks
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Re: Howard/native american connection?
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Surnames: Howard, Bauer, Robbins, Floyd, Carpenter
I am also related to Viola Mae Howard, born 5 Feb 1906 near Verdigre, Nebraska. Although there is an Indian Reservation near Verdigre, I am not aware of the Howard's having a "native" connection. Please E-mail me - Edna Barnes FWBarnes@aol.comThanks
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Linda Cunningham
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Posted: 19 Feb 2002 1:58PM GMT
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Hi Edna, My grandmother and her sister both said Viola was raised on an Indian reservation and both said that Viola was part Indian. My grandmother said that Viola was Blackfoot, and my great Aunt says that she was Sioux. I've found that there is a tribe of Cheyenne River Sioux whose name "Siha Sapa" translates into "Black Foot", and there is a Pine Ridge reservation on the border of South Dakota/Nebraska. That sounds like it might be a possibility, but I have no idea where Viola was raised. I'm afraid I haven't gotten very far on this line~if Viola had siblings born after her, I might get an idea of where she was raised, but I haven't a clue~yet. I was hoping that I'd get lucky and someone else would have some information that might help me. If I do happen to find anything out, I'll be sure to post it though!
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I'm not sure that I can tie into this but I've been working on finding some Howards in the area of Kansas and Okla. Anderson Howard married Georgianne Rowland. They lived in Chataqua Kansas. This would be about 1860. Their daughter, Lelia Mae married Dempsey King Smith. Later, the family moved to Pawhuska Okla. The Smiths always believed that Lelia was a native American. Photos could indicate that she is dark skinned and has some features that might bear this out. I have not been able to establish a link.
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M. J. Howard
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Posted: 26 Feb 2002 8:53PM GMT
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I have Howards in my husbands family bact into 1800's. Many of them went to Ok. and some to Mo. I have information and am in contact with some from Ok. If interested contact me
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M J Howard
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Posted: 26 Feb 2002 8:58PM GMT
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Hi: I have a Violeta in my Howard tree but she was born in latter part of 1800's. Have been told that some ancestors might have been part Cherokee. They were in Tenn. and many migrated to Mo. and Ok. What other names do you have
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Jean Mayfield Cuevas
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Posted: 26 Feb 2002 11:13PM GMT
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Just curious,
Any HOWARD connections in Christian County, MO? I am seeking an Edward HOWARD, b. May 1885, Christian County, MO. It was said that he had moved to OK, but I don't know where.
Thanks.
Jean Cuevas
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Edna Barnes
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Posted: 27 Feb 2002 2:55AM GMT
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Classification: Query
Surnames: Howard, Carpenter, Floyd, Robbins, Cheney
Hi - I'm actually checking for my great grandfather, Silas Howard, who was born in about 1823 in Cayuga County, NY. He married Betsy (Rebecca/Elizabeth/Becky) Carpenter in PA in about 1848 in PA. Silas served in the Civil War. I feel that his ancestors are buried in Locke, Cayuga Co., NY but haven't been able to make the connection. According to the US Census report, the father of Silas Howard was also born in NY. Silas and his family moved often and in about 1895 moved to north of Royal (Savage), Antelope County, Nebraska and died there in 1906. Although there was (and still is) an Indian Reservation near where they lived, I have never heard that the direct descendants of Silas Howard were native Americans. Edna Barnes, Fairfield, CA
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Edna Barnes
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Posted: 27 Feb 2002 2:55AM GMT
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Classification: Query
Surnames: Howard, Carpenter, Floyd, Robbins, Cheney
Hi - I'm actually checking for my great grandfather, Silas Howard, who was born in about 1823 in Cayuga County, NY. He married Betsy (Rebecca/Elizabeth/Becky) Carpenter in PA in about 1848 in PA. Silas served in the Civil War. I feel that his ancestors are buried in Locke, Cayuga Co., NY but haven't been able to make the connection. According to the US Census report, the father of Silas Howard was also born in NY. Silas and his family moved often and in about 1895 moved to north of Royal (Savage), Antelope County, Nebraska and died there in 1906. Although there was (and still is) an Indian Reservation near where they lived, I have never heard that the direct descendants of Silas Howard were native Americans. Edna Barnes, Fairfield, CA
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M J Howard
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Posted: 27 Feb 2002 3:12AM GMT
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I'll check my tree and see what I come up with.
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i like to know if you have a leroy or william howard anywere in our tree the other ones ore martha ,owen,dory,mary,herny,and redema i know they live in ok at some time because i found owen and dory in one of the indian school but i dont remember with one it was and i lost a lot of my paper work by loaning it out to other family member i know that all live in pineville mo in 1870 i found them there i sure could us some help thank you martha e smith
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Jean Mayfield Cuevas
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Posted: 27 Feb 2002 11:50AM GMT
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Thank you. I appreciate your efforts.
Jean Cuevas
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M J Howard
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Posted: 27 Feb 2002 4:08PM GMT
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Hi: Sorry I could not find any one by that name. Send the name on to a man in Ok. who is working on the Howard Tree there. Perhaps he will come with something. It seems that a lot of them went to Ok.
I did find that William Howard in my tree, born 1818 was born in Mo. according to census as place of birth. Another person is looking for a Henry Howard born 1806, I thing perhaps they might have been brothers as they both ended up in McMinn County, Tn. What a puzzle. Do you have anything on a William or Henry in Mo. about that time?
Mary Jane
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Howards of Christian County, MO
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Jean Mayfield Cuevas
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Posted: 27 Feb 2002 5:58PM GMT
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Mary Ann,
The head of the family which included the Edward I am seeking, was a Woodson Howard, b. Dec 26, 1802, Caswell County, NC. I am not a HOWARD by descendancy, but because Edward was a half-brother to my grandmother, I would like to locate his descendants.
Whether these folks were ever in McMinn County, TN, I am not sure. Several of their children were born somewhere in TN, but I am not sure where.
Thanks.
Jean Mayfield Cuevas
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I have John Earl Howard b. 3/14/1904 in Washington County, MO. He was the son of John Richard who was born 2/12/1856.
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Lisa Howard
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Posted: 28 Feb 2002 10:37PM GMT
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Do you have a John Richard or John Earl Howard from MO?
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Did William have any brothers?
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Jean Mayfield Cuevas
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Posted: 1 Mar 2002 8:40PM GMT
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Thanks for your reply. The HOWARDS for whom I am searching were in Christian County, MO for generations, and Edward and family moved on to OK, so the oral history goes.
Jean C.
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M J Howard
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Posted: 1 Mar 2002 10:17PM GMT
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It sure seems that a lot of Howards went to Ok. Wonder what the attraction was way back then. I'm sure yours family ties in some place with my Howards.
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