Hamann - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

HAMANN, KIEHSICH, PESCHEL, LORENZ

RLipprandt2286 — 2013-05-18 20:10:54Z

Seeking information of the descendants of the marriage of
Gottlieb (1772-1836) and Regine Ann (Kiehsich)(1775-1855) Hamann, of Siefertsdorf bei Dippoldswalde, Koenigreich Sachsen (Kingdom of Saxony). Narrowed down, this area was a bit to the Southeast of Leipzig.

Eight children were born to this union, five males and three females.

The Hamann children were born between the years 1793 through 1907 in Koenigreich Sachsen.

This information was retrieved from Lutheran church records in present day Dippoldswalde.

If you have any Hamann family members that originated in the Kingdom of Saxony, I would appreciate hearing from you as the sons may have migrated to other areas of either Prussia or German speaking areas.

Regards, Robert Lipprandt

Re: Ludwig or Carl Hamann in Wentworth Co. Onterio

robynneblake49 — 2013-05-18 13:37:19Z

Hi Patrick,

If you are still looking, Thalia Parbery (Carl's wife) is part of my family tree if you would like to know more,

Warm regards,

Robynne
Robynne Kilborne-Blake
robynne.blake.49@gmail.com

Re: Hamann Family

RLipprandt2286 — 2013-04-01 19:23:44Z

Looking though various messages listed in this line, one thing stands out if you are researching the surname Hamann.

The idea of any information before 1871 listing Germany as a birth place is false. Germany (as a country) did not exist until the capitol was moved from Ostpreussen (East Prussia) to the province of Brandenburg (Berlin) in 1871.

Before (depending upon the time frame), you either had Pruessen (Prussia), which touched France on the West to Litauen (Lithuania)/Slovokia in the east.

Unsually anything to the south was comprised of Koenigreich's (Kingdoms) or Hertzogum's (Duchies) associated with each other to not be over-run by the Prussians.

Enough of that.... getting back to the subject of this message!

If any of you know of your Hamann ancetors that came from
Siefertsdorf bei Dippoldswalde, Königreich Sachsen (Dippoldswoods, Kingdom of Saxony), I would appreciate your reply. Both Siefertsdorf and Dipploldwalde are a bit Southeast of Leipzig, in Saxony.

There are seven Hamann brothers and six Hamann sisters from this area of Saxony that are unaccounted for.

My American Hamann's settled in Town Centerville, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin (1848). Afterwards, there was a slight shift to neighboring Sheboygan County and by the third generation, into Clark County (central Wisconsin) and beyond.

Regards, Robert Lipprandt
(Ft. Lauderdale)

Re: Hamann Family

Wingman407 — 2013-04-01 15:39:52Z

Hi, my name is Keith turner. William hamann was my grgr grandfather. I have a lot of info as well as pics if you are interested.

Keith turner.
Titusville Florida
Kturner66@yahoo.com

Re: German Immigration to New York

AronGSchmidt — 2012-12-22 00:22:18Z

I might be late on this but better late than never ... ;-)

Gr. Zunder sounds like "Gross Zuender" - wich is now called "Cedry Wielkie" in Poland. Just check

http://www.westpreussen.de

though the website is only in German language. Though Wikipedia & Co should have some information on this town and it's history too.

In regard of the Hamanns - I know of a Anna Margareta Hamann (nee Fälber) who was living in New York in 1863. Does this sound somewhat familar to you?

Re: Frederick William Hamann b. 27 Nov 1854 Berkholz Germany

champion1945 — 2012-12-10 22:21:49Z

No - my family all settled in East Peoria, Tazewell County, IL. Wish it were a match.

Re: Frederick William Hamann b. 27 Nov 1854 Berkholz Germany

sandymarilyn — 2012-12-10 20:15:12Z

I have a great-grandfather who was Frederick Hamann (born Dec. 5, 1852/1853/1854 and was a policeman in St. Paul, Minnesota in the late 1800's. He was from Germany and married Caroline Wold/Wolk.

Does this fit in with any of your family information?
Sandy

Re: Wisconsin & Milwaukee's German Newspapers Index

rebholzgary — 2012-08-23 14:09:09Z

There are about 235 occurrences of Hammann, Hamman and Hamann (combined) found in local German papers and indexed in "Milwaukee's German Newspapers; an index of death notices and related items" (1844-1950). The most common spelling found in these papers is "Hamann".

These include multiple death notices and a Danksagung published for a Johann H. Hammann (d. 1890, survived by Wilhelmina), and various entries for the name Wilhelmine.

Other surnmes referenced with these surname variations listed above include: Flechsig Braatz Dryer Seefurth Koehler Buhse Knopp Knopf Meyer Wiganowsky Kuehn Wendt Becker Burghardt.

Some place names include: Lallendorf, Fullingtostel and Beraun

Indexing of these papers started in 2007 and continues today.
For more information contact project compiler/editor:
Gary Rebholz
Milwaukee Wis.
gary.rebholz@gmail.com

Re: Mrs. Hamann, maiden name Stoltenberg, lived in Davenport, Iowa

SaraGaarde — 2012-05-08 03:41:44Z

Mystery solved. "Mrs. Hamann" was born Cecilia Stoltenberg in 1836 in Holstein, Germany. On 16 Feb. 1857 she married John F. Hamann in Davenport, Iowa. Cecilia died 14 Dec 1924 in Davenport, Iowa. Her brother was Joachim Stoltenberg, who was born Oct. 1820 in the area of Krokau in Probstei, Holstein, Plon, Germany; emigrated with his wife in their aged years to Clinton, Iowa; and Joachim died in Clinton in 1904. This was a brother and sister from Krokau area of Probstei. Looking for any further information.
Sara Gaarde

Re: Mrs. Hamann, maiden name Stoltenberg, lived in Davenport, Iowa

RLipprandt2286 — 2012-04-29 11:21:17Z

Not sure if this has any revelence in your search/research.

I am a Hamann DNA descendant (do not carry the Hamann surname) that originated in Koeningreich Sachsen (Kingdom of Saxony), then to South Manitowoc County and Sheboygan County, Wisconsin.

Stoltenberg is a name spread throughout those two counties in Wisconsin.

With freedom of migration in early America, it is not impossible to think that the two surnames in two states could possibly be related.

Huhn is another surname from Manitowoc/Sheboygan counties that would be in the mix.

Religious affiliation of the three surnames would either be E & R (todays UCC) or the various Lutheran synods and those three families married each others sons/daughters and coverted quite often.

Unfortunately, I have no information of much in Davenport.

Regards, Robert Lipprandt
(South Florida)

Re: CHARLES F. HAMANN 2ND MARRIAGE TO LAURA B. ATWOOD

vdemare1 — 2012-04-29 11:19:38Z

thank you for your reply.i have no further info on charles f hamann other then what i listed on the message board.i have since found laura on the 1940 census & appears she was already widowed or divorced as not living with him.would be interesting to find what year he appears in a detroit city directory with her & then the year he is not listed or at a different address. in 1940 at least until her death in '45 she resided on collinwood.

i am sorry you took offense for all upper case letters....others do the same for all small case.but due to a neck injury,the pinky & ring fingers of both hands are numb & make it difficult to switch between both cases.most people don't even mention it & i see it many times by others.it's a matter of i'm damned if i do or don't no matter which case i choose to use .

Mrs. Hamann, maiden name Stoltenberg, lived in Davenport, Iowa

SaraGaarde — 2012-04-29 03:42:13Z

In the obituary of my gr-gr-grandfather Joachim Stoltenberg (1820-1904), who died in Clinton, Iowa, it is stated that Joachim is survived by his sister, "Mrs. Hamann of Davenport." This Mrs. Hamann's maiden name would have been Stoltenberg. Does anyone have any info on this Mrs. Hamann or the connection between Hamann and Stoltenberg in Davenport, Iowa?

Re: CHARLES F. HAMANN 2ND MARRIAGE TO LAURA B. ATWOOD

Joyful — 2012-04-03 15:33:27Z

Do you know when / where Charles was born? First wife? More details would help to narrow down which Charles Hamann you are after.

Also, just a note, when you type in all caps, it is considered shouting in email or on message boards. I know some folks have trouble with eyesight and use all caps for that reason, but it makes it more difficult to read.

Joy

CHARLES F. HAMANN 2ND MARRIAGE TO LAURA B. ATWOOD

vdemare1 — 2012-04-03 12:26:32Z

CHARLES F. HAMANN LIKELY MARRIED & WIDOWED. A 2ND MARR TO LAURA B. ATWOOD B. FEB. 1877 MICH..THIS 2ND MARR LIKELY TOOK PLACE IN DETROIT MICH AREA OR COOK CO ILL. AFTER 1920.SHE DIED IN DETROIT 1945 & CHARLES IS LISTED ON HER DC BUT NO STATUS LISTED.....HE IS NOT LISTED IN HER OBIT AS A SURVIVOR SO SEEMS HE WAS ALREADY DECEASED. ANY INFO WILL BE APPRECIATED TO CHIP AT THE BRICK WALL.

Re: Hamann Family History

Polly_Ballance — 2012-01-15 22:46:09Z

My mother's father was the Henry Hamann who moved to Cloquet, Minnesota. He was born 11 Mar 1878 in Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and died in Cloquet 9 Jan 1940. Within a year or two, his survivors (widow Mildred Christabel DeCou, daughters Marguerite--my mother--and Mildred and son Henry) had moved to California. I'd be happy to share the info I have about Henry's descendants. I have one old photo which I believe shows Henry and his parents and siblings, which I can e-mail you if you'd like. I'd love to have copies of any other photos if available. I got in contact with cousin Barb Turner a couple of years ago and have been remiss in staying connected with her. I'm starting to delve into the Hamann background in Germany/Pomerania and would welcome any information you may have on that. Here in southern California, there is a special interest group of the Immigrant Genealogical Society for Pommeranian research, and I plan to join the group shortly.

Hamann Family History

hvwegner — 2011-11-20 23:38:59Z

My grandmother, Bertha Hamann, was born in Cedarburg, WI and migrated to Butternut, WI, where her family homesteaded. Is anyone working on Hamann history from that area?

Re: Hamann Family History

rloss1 — 2011-11-16 10:14:24Z

Small world at times Harold.

Regards, Bob~~

Re: Hamann Family History

hvwegner — 2011-11-16 00:42:47Z

Bob,

Thank you for your insight. I grew up at St. Paul Lutheran in Butternut. My records are there.

I also knew the Schluenz family in Butternut. My Dad purchased some land from them 70 years ago.

Thank you again.

Harold Wegner

Re: Hamann Family History

rloss1 — 2011-11-15 12:33:12Z

Harold.... go to this site: http://genealogytrails.com/wis/ashland/

The web master is Marla Zwackman and she is also the web master of Marathon County, Wisconsin.

Marla and I have worked on projects in the past and she is the one that first brought my attention to the Hamann family of the Butternut area, of Ashland County when she found out that I have Hamann blood in my veins.

She also found Schluenz descendants of my search group that migrated from Manitowoc County, to Marathon County and on to Agenda, Ashland County.

You can mention my name when you contact her.

Regards, Bob~~

Re: Hamann Family History

hvwegner — 2011-11-15 01:29:14Z

My grandmother, Bertha, was born in Washington county in 1869. They moved north to the Town of Agena, east of Butternut in Ashland county when she was very young. She married my grandfather, Henry Wegner and they lived just a few miles away. Her brother, John, lived on the home place. They had a brother, Henry, who moved to Cloquet, MN and a sister, Hattie, who lived in Mosinee, WI and had the married name of Jensen. They did come from Germany, but I don't know the place of origin.
Someone from the Mosinee area had started some research several decades ago, but I lost the name.

Thank you for your interest and response.

Harold Wegner, Minneapolis, MN

Re: Hamann Family History

RLipprandt2286 — 2011-11-15 01:02:01Z

Greetings....

Not sure just how much information you have of the Butternut group, but I would be very interested in where they came from in Prussia/Germany and when they immigrated.

There is another fairly large group of Hamann's that settled in the Western townships of Marathon Co., Wisconsin.
Also would one day like to know where they came from in Prussia/Germany and immigration data.

My Hamann's (Saxony, immigrating to Twp. Centerville, Manitowoc Co., WI) immigrated in 1848 aboard the Flora McDonald. Religious preference was Lutheran or Evangelical Reformed. Eventually, the moved a bit south into Northern Sheboygan County. Sheboygan County also has at least four other Hamann families.

In the surname box, I will list known surnames from South Manitowoc/Northern Sheboygan. Those listed would be first generation marriages.

Hope something matches your information...

Robert Lipprandt
(Ft. Lauderdale, FL)

Frederick William Hamann b. 27 Nov 1854 Berkholz Germany

champion1945 — 2011-07-27 01:36:31Z

Frederick is my great great gr-father. He married Marie Altman (Aultman) and they lived in Tazewell Co., IL. He died 21 Feb 1928. His father was John Carl Frederick Hamann, b. 1816 in Germany, married Christina Reinicke who was born 23 Aug 1822. John Carl's father was Joch Hamann b. 1763 in Germany and married Margaretha Voss, born in 1777. Looking for information beyond Joch and Margaretha.

Frederick Hamann

champion1945 — 2011-07-04 22:32:48Z

Am looking for information on Frederick William or Wilhelm Hamann b. 27 Nov 1854 in Germany, died in Peoria Illinois.

CHARLES F. HAMANN LIVING IN DETROIT 1940-45

vdemare1 — 2011-06-10 15:56:41Z

Looking for a Charles F. Hamann living in Detroit & married to Laura (nee Atwood).Laura died Dec 13 1945 @ the Carmel Hosp. in Detroit .Her DC lists CHARLES F. HAMANN as her husband. She is buried in the Millington Twp CEMETERY, Millington,Tuscola Co, Mich WITH HER PARENTS, SAMUEL & ELLEN ATWOOD of Millington.There are also 2 sisters but no 1st or 2nd husb buried with her. All brick walls in locating marriage info for this couple. Will greatly appreciate any info or leads regarding this marriage.

Re: Hamann Family ,

rloss1 — 2011-02-13 22:19:35Z

Many thanks for your reply!

Just to be fore-warned... in the event a connection is ever found, what I have provided is just the tip of the iceberg.

My Hamann group nears 2,000 persons, ancestors and living!

Regards,Bob~~

Re: Hamann Family ,

sheepldy — 2011-02-13 22:02:23Z

Thank you for this information. I am just beginning this side of the family and will hang onto this information. I think one of the family came to the USA while another came to Canada. I am trying to find out a little more.

Re: Hamann Family ,

RLipprandt2286 — 2011-02-13 12:11:29Z

Although your first names do not match my Hamann Family members, the proximity of where they lived makes this response a shot in the dark!

The following information was gathered by a cousin of mine from the Lutheran Parish in Mohorn, Saxony.

Father:
Gottlieb Hamann
B: 1772, Siefertsdorf bei Dippoldswalde, Köningreich Sachsen
D: 1836, Herzogswalde, Kreis Meißen, Köningreich Sachsen
Married Anne Regine (Kiehshich)
B: 1775, Herzogswalde, Kreis Meißen, Köningreich Sachsen
D: 1855, Herzogswalde, Kreis Meißen, Köningreich Sachsen

Eight children were born to this marriage, three females and five males.

Other than my direct line, the names and actual birth dates of the other births is not known at this time.

What is known:
Gottlob Karl Hamann
B: 1799, Herzogswalde, Kreis Meißen, Köningreich Sachsen
D: ?
1st Marriage to Johanne Christiane (Peschel)
B: 1800, Kesseldorf, Köningreich Sachsen
D: ?
2nd Marriage to Johanne Friedericke (Lorenz)
B: ?, Leuben, Köningreich Sachsen

The two known children of the first marriage of Gottlob Karl are:

Friedericke Christianna (Hamann) Möbius Wiegand
B: 1824, Herzogswalde, Kreis Meißen, Köningsreich Sachsen
D: 1895, Twp. Centerville, Manitowoc Co., Wisconsin
1st Marriage Friedrich Ferdinand Möbius
B: 1824, Amt, Kreis Meißen, Köningsreich Sachsen
D: c1850, Twp. Centerville, Manitowoc Co., Wisconsin
2nd Marriage Karl R. G. Wiegand
B: 1817, Lippe-Dittmold, Preußen
D: 1871, Twp. Centerville, Manitowoc Co., Wisconsin

Gottlieb Karl Hamann
B: 1825, Herzogswalde, Kreis Meißen, Köningreich Sachsen
D: 1913, Twp. Centerville, Manitowoc Co., Wisconsin
Married Henriette Christianna (Koch)
B: 1826, Abend, Kreis Meißen, Köningreich Sachsen
D: 1892, Unity, Marathon Co., Wisconsin

As I mentioned, presently none of our names match but please hold on to my information as I believe there could be a connection with my unnamed Hamann males.

Regards, Robert Lipprandt
(South Florida)

Hamann Family ,

sheepldy — 2011-02-13 07:20:28Z

Gustav Hamann -son Max Hamann born 1886 Elstertrebnitz, Germany Married Agnes Quelmalz (B Groitz, Germany)
Any information helpful and appreciated

Re: Iowa Hamanns

radarmann — 2010-12-12 03:43:34Z

While serving in the Air Force 1961\62 stationed in Sioux City, Ia. I dated a Jan Hamann who was 18 at that time. I am now trying to reconnect with her but have no info since 1962.

William Jay Hamann

lastonestanding — 2010-07-29 00:23:34Z

obit for Bill is in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin July 28th 2010 in southern California
age 59 passed away June 24th 2010 in Palm Springs, California. He was born Aug 10 1950 in West Ben, Wisconsin, He was a resident of Rancho Cucamonga for over 20 years. He was in the mortgage industry for over 30 years. Bill is survived by his significant other Darlene TEnnent, mother Audrey Hamann (Jack) son Tom Kracht, daughter Shawna Norman(DAniel), stepdaugthter Jennifer Boop (Bob),sisters Barbara Rollins (Jerry) and Betty Hamann, brother Al Hamann, 2 nephews, 2 nieces and 6 grandchildren.
A celebration of his life will be held at the Cask and Cleaver restaurant in Rancho Cucamonga on July 30th 2010 from 1 to 4pm Casual attire please.

frederick and emma Hamann and daughters mary and dorothea, Kiel Germany

wrighty268 — 2010-06-18 21:59:16Z

I am trying to find relatives of my German ancestors Friedrich (Frederick) Hamann b 1854 Kiel who married Emma Kruse b1854 Glechendorf Schleswig Holstien. They had two daughters - Mary Hamann b1877 and Dorothea Wilhemena Hamann b1879 in Sheffield England. Dorothea married John Cartledge in Sheffield and had 3 sons from 1906-1911. she stayed in England. Can anyone tell me what happened to her sister or parents as they did not stay in England . they could even have emmigrated from Germany to USA??

Victor Hamann, b.1906, son of Ruben/Rudolph & Anna, lived Kankakee Co., IL

margerice1 — 2010-04-14 00:21:13Z

I have an original 4”x6” photograph in a presentation folder - of “Victor Hamann” on which is printed “My Confirmation”. I’d like to get this picture back to descendants or family members. Photo was taken in Momence (Kankakee Co.) IL and he looks to be about age 16.

I found Victor Hamann in the 1920 census for Sumner (Kankakee Co.) IL, age 13, oldest child of six children of Ruben & Anna Hamann. I went to 1910 census, and the father’s given name at that time was Rudolph. In SSDI, I found Victor Hamann with birthdate of 17 Feb 1906; and his death date was Jan 1981, with last address of Grant Park (Kankakee Co.) IL.

Get back to me at margerice@prodigy.net if you are related to Victor Hamann

Re: family history

RPM1689 — 2010-04-02 04:46:38Z

My grandfather was Walter Roy Hamann. He died in 2006. Let me know if you want to exchange some info.

Re: family history

RPM1689 — 2010-04-02 04:44:24Z

Hey we must be related. Charles Otto Hamann was my grandfather's brother.

CHARLES F. HAMANN

vdemare1 — 2010-03-31 13:44:11Z

Looking for a Charles F. Hamann who was married to a Laura Atwood some time after 1930. Marriage may have been in Detroit Mich..Have no info on when & where he was born. Most likely a 2nd marriage for him as Laura would have been close to or over 50 when this marriage occured.

Laura was born 10 Feb 1877 in Millington,Tuscola Co., Mich. & was the dau. of Sam & Ellen King Atwood.She was living in Detroit since early 1900's & employed at the J.L.Hudson Dept. store in the high end sales area..... being 1 of a few employees who could go to the stores executive dinning room.An elderly family member in their 80's remembers her & says in the 1928-32 period she was not married to Hamann .She died Dec. 1945 with dc stating she was married but no spouse listed in obit with the survivors.She is buried in Millington with her parents.

Any info on the Charles F.Hamann she was married to will be greatly appreciated. If no definite info then some good leads to check out is better then nothing.

Josef Haman/Katerina Tamelova

jfagerness — 2010-02-14 20:25:45Z

Looking for information on Josef Haman b. 1823 possibly Policka, Czech Republic son of Antonin and Anna Martinu Haman. Josef m. Katerina Tamelova 1857 Policka, dau. of Vaclav an Marie Martinu Tamele. Need information on children and if they came to US.

Re: Wisconsin

wcarrsr1 — 2009-09-30 13:25:38Z

Hi, I believe the person you are looking for (or were) is
John Hamann born 28 Jan 1850 in Germany; son of John Hamann and his wife, Wilhelmina Burmeister. John had three sibs, Minna, Henry and August (August was my ggrandfather).
John died in 1890 in Milwauke (I Think; although I searched in Milwaukee for a d/c and never found one) I recently saw on ancestry.com that he married Elizabeth Praeger and that they had a large family.

If this is your family, too, I know more about John and Wilhelmina and their children.

Best Wishes, Kathy Carr

Re: Ludwig or Carl Hamann in Wentworth Co. Onterio

patrickmaclean — 2009-09-05 18:10:23Z

55. Athalia Evelyn Parbery (Emily Caroline Jaggers2, John1) was born in 1878 in Bega, NSW172 and died in 1957 at age 79.

Athalia married Carl Ludvic Hamann, son of Carl Hamann and Johanna, in 1897 in Sydney, NSW.533 Carl was born in 1868 in Apenrade, Germany, died in 1903 in Sydney, NSW534 at age 35, and was buried in Waverley Cemetery, NSW. Another name for Carl was Charles.

M i. Sydney Carl Hamann was born in 1898 in Sydney, NSW.535

F ii. Olive Evelyn Hamann was born in 1899 in Sydney, NSW.536

F iii. Thalia Evelyn Hamann was born in 1900 in Sydney, NSW.537

M iv. Charles Ludvic Hamann was born in 1903 in Sydney, NSW.538

This info was foun in www.monaropioneers.com/Jagger_John.htm#534

SYDNEY CARL HAMANN PARBERY WAS MY GRANDFATHER, WHO CAME OUT TO CHILE A SHORT TIME AFTER his mother widowed, " CARL LUDIVIG HAMANN.

I belive we may have a common ancestry close by to these ancestors, I will appreciate if you have any further info, and who knows, its a small world and may be some day we meet, you are only to welcome down to this end of the world.

A warm hug

Patrick Mac-Lean Hamann. (grandson of Sydney Carl Hamann.P

My e-mail patrickmaclean@gmail.com

Hamann

JIWelsch — 2009-08-26 18:40:00Z

Gilbert Glen Hamann, 92, Stanwood, died Sept. 2, at St. Luke's Hospital in Cedar Rapids following a lingering illness.

The Rev. David Fry will be the celebrant for the services. Burial will be at New Horizon Cemetery in Tipton.

A memorial has been established

Mr. Hamann was born Sept. 24, 1913, in Sunbury, a son of William F. Hamann and Emma Glazer.

He was educated in the Sunbury Country School. He was a farmer.

Survivors include a son, Robert Hamann, of Petersburg, Ill.

He was preceded in death by his wife, Clara Hamann, and a son, Glen Hamann.

Re: Jacob Hammann 1825-1892

BabsBedell — 2009-06-11 03:00:22Z

WONDERFUL! I sent you an email in case it's easier to send the info via email than to post it.

Re: Jacob Hammann 1825-1892

findgilder — 2009-06-06 19:57:59Z

I have a ton of information on his ancestry in Germany, as well as a list of his siblings, if anyone out there is interested?
Brian Hamman

Jacob Hammann 1825-1892

BabsBedell — 2009-06-04 02:45:24Z

Jacob and Barbara Hammann of Buck Valley, Pennsylvania were my Great Grandparents. Jacob's father was (Konrad or Conrad). Is anyone else from this line?

Re: Hamann family

WilliamEFrame — 2009-06-02 02:28:44Z

Thanks for your follow up reply. I did (obviously) get your latest e-mail message.

Not sure if i will persue the movie thing. I know of no relative with the name Heinrick Hamann.

But, I appreciate your information.

Sandy

Re: Hamann family

folks161 — 2009-06-02 00:00:11Z

Long years in between. Just in case you still receive this mail: The polish regisseur made a short movie only. It had be shown (as i was told) on such small-movie insider festivals, one in Israel, one in the US. I found no evidence to be a relative of this terrible Heinrich Hamann, so i did not involve myself or keep more information. You can find an article about the nazi-criminal Heinrich Hamann in the german wikipedia. It looks to me as if fortunaltely the chance is high that he has absolutely nothing to do with your family either. Regarding your other questions i cannot help.

Re: Heinrich

folks161 — 2009-06-01 23:53:16Z

Hm, long years in between. Just in case you still receive this mail: The polish regisseur made a short movie only. I found no evidence to be a relative of this terrible Heinrich Hamann, so i did not involve myself. You can find an article about the nazi-criminal Heinrich Hamann in the german wikipedia.

Re: Hamman/Hamann Y-chromosome project

findgilder — 2009-04-30 00:42:49Z

Dear all,
We are now up to 111 participants, the largest DNA-based German surname project:
http://www.brian-hamman.com/Hamman_Y_chromosomeResults.htm
If you want learn more about your Hamann ancestry and/or whether you are related to any of the Hamman/Hammann/Hamann/Haman lines shown in the above link, please send me an email. The test itself is very simple, just rub a cotton swab inside your cheek...
Cheers,
Brian Hamman
brianhamman@yahoo.com

Re: Hamann/Hamon/Haman/Hermeler In Indiana

findgilder — 2009-01-04 23:13:19Z

Lienan, Westfalen, is definitely an area of Germany that used to be part of Prussia. Recall that August Hamann says in 1870 that he was born in Prussia. I guess you got the Lienen/Westfalen info from the book you mentioned? Do you have Frederick's *exact* birthdate? Might be interesting to look for his birth record in the church records of Lienan.... I guess he was Lutheran? You never, know there might also be some Hamann's listed in the church records for Lienan...
Brian

Re: Hamann/Hamon/Haman/Hermeler In Indiana

grannyz628 — 2009-01-04 22:49:08Z

Well, we agree on things. My great, great grandfather (Frederick) came from Lienan, Westfalen, Germany as far as I have been able to come up with.
I aslo am thinking that those children were from a previous marriage. I haven't a clue as to where Henrietta came from except Germany. They are listed in "The Genealogical Records of German Families in Allen County, Indiana" dated 1918 with very little information. I can't even seem to locate Frederick's parents, although they are listed in that book but I can not get info to match, the parents names I come up with doing research would be like in their 70's when they had him!!! He also went by the name Ernest. I have no clue as to if Henrietta and Frederick knew each other or not before coming here, just nothing but dead ends. Have a good evening and so nice to talk with you. Thanks again for all your help.

Re: Hamann/Hamon/Haman/Hermeler In Indiana

findgilder — 2009-01-04 22:00:20Z

Thanks, now I see them in the census records. I see the 1900 record has her listed as born December 1846 and immigrating in 1876, which is consistent with the 1920 census. Maybe the August Hamann is an older brother pf Henrietta, who came earlier to America? Also, if Henrietta married already in 1877, just one year after she arrived, I wonder if she somehow knew Frederick Hermeler? Do you know where in Germany he came from?

In the 1880 Census, I'm thinking those born prior to 1877 might be Frederick Hermeler's children thru a previous marriage...

BTW, what was the first name of your great grandma and what is her birthdate?

My Hamman side is stuck in the mid 1700s, we came from Germany, but still don't know exactly where from in Germany...

Brian

Re: Hamann/Hamon/Haman/Hermeler In Indiana

grannyz628 — 2009-01-04 21:38:29Z

Thanks for the clue Brian, I'll check that out! I know about the difference in census records but do know they were married in 1877 in Indiana. I also know they had 2 other daughters that are not listed on the 1880 census, my great grandmother and my great aunt, nothing is jiving here, that is part of my problem. In the 1900 census they are listed under Frederick Hemler, st. Joe Township, Allen County, Indiana and the girls are listed there but no one else from the previous census. I have found Frederick's record of immigration so I do know that is correct but nothing on Henrietta, my great, great, grandmother. 1910 Census shows them in Wayne Township, Allen County under Fred Hermeler. This is why I keep running into dead ends, hopefully the obits will give me soemthig more to go on. I really do appreciate all your work, thanks you so much. Are you related to the Hamann side? I do know her name has been spelled 3 different ways which is fairly common. Take care Brian!