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Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 21 Apr 2009 5:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have Gwythers from Tenby/Manorbier and Narberth.

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 16 Aug 2009 9:52AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gwyther
Hi, realise this is an old post, however, have just found Gwyther's in my family tree. My grandfather was Edward Trevor Gwther Jones b.1904 Robeston, Narberth, Pembrokeshire, his mother was Lilian Matilda Gwyther b. 1883 Robeston, Narberth, Pembrokeshire, daughter of Lot Gwyther b.1838 Manorbier, Pembrokeshire. I believe his parents (Lot's parents) were Peter Gwyther & Martha (surname unknown). Peter b.1789 Slade, Pembrokeshire. Do these feature in your research? Regards, Carey Batchelor

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 17 Aug 2009 4:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am really not sure if they are related. However, I do have the marriage details of Lot and Mary. Married 4 June 1861 in the Parish Church Narberth - Lot Gwyther Manorbier of full age, Bachelor, carpenter father Peter Gwyther farmer, married Mary Thomas full age Blackmore Hill spinster father James Thomas farmer.
Also have the details of children at the British School (Independent) - Elisa Gwyther born 15 March 1867 and Mary Louisa Gwyther born 5 Aug 1870 both admitted 11 May 1874 father is Lot Gwyther of Blaenmonlay, another one was E H Gwyther of Nedstone admitted 21 Apr 1873(not sure if this is admission date or birth date) father Lot Gwyther wheelwright Baptist.
I may even have other bits of information which I will look up and let you know if I have any more.
If Lot is from Manorbier as it says on wedding details then it is possible my William Gwyther and he are related somewhere. Will keep a look out for you.
Regards Ellenor

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 17 Aug 2009 10:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Definately think you may be onto something there. Lot (was listed as Lort) Gwther was still living with his parents (Peter and Martha)at Slade on the 1861 census. A relative, possibly a brother to Lot's father, Peter, lived at Slade Cottage which I assume is on the same property. James Gwyther was married to Mary and there were 3 children listed, James, John & Mary. I have obtained the Lot's children's names from the 1881 census & 1901 census. I have Elizabeth Gwyther b. 1870 so that is possibly Elisa that you refer to. I have Mary b 1870. I have an Edwin b. 1862 but no other children starting with E that could be the EH Gwyther. Thankyou so much for the quick response & looking forward to hearing from you again. Regards, Carey

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 7:14AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have a christening of a Lot Gwyther in Manorbier on 26 May 1838. So I did a quick check on freebmd and came up with a birth of a Lot Gwyther in Pembroke, June quarter 1838 reference Folio 26, page 631.
If you were to send off for that it should give information on parents names. Although I think you already have those but it would be a starting point. I'll have a look on familysearch to see if there is any other information and let you know.
Regards Ellenor

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 10:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Carey
This is what I have to date. It will be up to you to check this information.
Peter Gwyther was born about 1790 in Manorbier and died before 1871. He married Martha, she was born about 1807 in Martletwy Manorbier.
Their children were: Eliza born about 1831, George born about 1833, Edwin born about 1835, Lot I have given you, Charles born Jun quarter 1841 Pembroke Vol 26 Page 695, Louisa born Jun qtr 1843 Pembroke 26 686, Martha born Dec 1850 Pembroke 26 738.
Lot married Mary Thomas 4 Jun 1861 in Narberth. Their children were: Edwin Lawrence born Sept qtr 1861 Narberth 11a 634, Elizabeth born Maer qtr 1866 Pembroke 11a 765,
Mary Louisa Sept qtr 1869 Narberth 11a 723, Margaret Ann Jun qtr 1872 Narberth 11a 794, Thirza Maria Mar qtr 1875 Narberth 11a 953, Martha Jane Mar qtr 1877 Narberth 1a 921 {another possible is one born Sept qtr 1878 Narberth 11a 869}, Eva Evangeline Sept 1880 Narberth 11a 836 and Lillie Mathilda Mar qtr 1883 Narberth 11a 894.
All of Peter's chn were born in Manorbier.
Hope this is some help to you. Let me know how you went. I will try and put your Gwythers with my mine and let you know how I went.
Regards EllenorPS EH Gwyther would be Elizabeth H.

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 11:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Ellenor, thankyou so much for all of this. Would be great if we had a connection since you've helped me out so much. Do you live in the UK? I was born in England but now live in Australia. Regards, Carey

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 20 Aug 2009 3:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
That's OK. I was born in England also and now live in Australia!!!!!
my regular email is ewa06271@bigpond.net.au
I wouldn't be surprised if your Peter and my William may have been cousins. But we will have to wait and see.
Talk with you soon
Regards Ellenor

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 23 Sep 2009 8:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: gwydyr / gwyther
This is a long shot and really justto ask you a question my grandmother in 1934 married a henry l gwydyr in london i can not find any trace of them or that surmame after that date called they have changed it to gwyther

Re: Gwyther of Pembrokeshire

Posted: 24 Sep 2009 12:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have no Henry Gwyther's in my tree. If I was you I would probably look through newspapers of the time in case they had put an ad in about changing their name. Is there no-one still alive who could help with the name change?
Who were Henry's parents? How far back have you gone on that branch? Sometimes if there is a falling out in the family the name could be changed, or spelt differently.
Sorry I can't be of more use. Good luck. Ellenor
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