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MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 10:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GWARTNEY, MCGUFFY, ROLL
Am researching MICAJAH GWARTNEY who was born in VA in 1750 and died in Harrison Co., IN in 1818 (Aug or Nov). His wife was Elizabeth McGuffy/McGuffey and they had the following children:

1. Ephraim G. Gwartney, b. 1791, Virginia, United States
2. John Gwartney, b. 1775, Mecklenburg County, Virginia, United States
3. William G Gwartney, b. 22 Dec 1783, Virginia, United States
4. Thomas Gwartney, b. 2 Nov 1789
5. Anthony Gwartney, b. 1790
6. Male Gwartney, b. 1793
7. Polly Gwartney, b. 1794, Kentucky, United States
8. Sarah Gwartney
9. Rebecca Gwartney, b. 1801

Also possibly another daughter Julia E Gwartney, b. 1802 VA who in 1823 married Jacob Roll.

Is there any known cemetery in Harrison County where Micajah and Elizabeth Gwartney were laid to rest? If so is there any marker or stone including any supporting information?

Any and all assistance is always greatly appreciated.

Leslie (AZ

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 28 Sep 2008 9:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Leslie have you gotten a reply to your Gwartney research. I two am researching Micajah Gwartney and Elizabeth McGuffey. I do belive (according to an insert in a bible) that they were the parents of Julia Elima who married Jacob Roll. If you have any further info on them, please reply. Shelia

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 29 Sep 2008 1:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sheila:

The 80+ page family history that I received from another Gwartney descendant who lives in KS has the following information:

MICAJAH GWARTNEY(b. 1750 d. 1818) was married to ELIZBETH (no surname given) in VA. The couple had 9 known children born between the years 1775/VA and 1801/?.

The only JULIA in this early part of the GWARTNEY history was JULIA ANN GWARTNEY b. 1803 who was the child/daughter of JOHN GWARTNEY, who was the first child of Micajah and Elizabeth in 1775 and LUCY BOWEN. JOHN & LUCY had 6 known children. There are a lot of question marks regarding Julia's place of birth or date of death.

JULIA ANN GWARTNEY was married to JACOB ROLL on 5/3/1823 and the couple had one known child - WILLIAM TAYLOR ROLL b. 11/11/1830/IN d. 10/1904/KS. WILLIAM m. AMERICA HOOTEN.

JULIA ANN GWARTNEY married WILLIAM MCMEHEN on 4/30/1839.

My personal GWARTNEY ancestor is HENRY CALVIN GWARTNEY b. 5/25/1882/KS d. 10/31/1930/WY who was the 6th of 8 children of EPHRAIM GWARTNEY and MARTHA EHART.

Many of the notes in the documentation I have were made or referenced by Rebecca Sidwell from her publication "Our Heritage From the Gwartney's of Indiana" 1980.

The only "link" between Julia Ann and Julia Elima seems to be the year of birth and the husband, Jacob Roll. My information does not include any source documentation unfortunately. The differences would be the parents and the second husband perhaps? Two possibilities exist: there were two Julia's born in the same year and the information hads been "merged" over the years or it's one person that's been recorded incorrectly. I have no idea how this will ever be figured out . . .

This is the reason I posted a message asking for possible grave marker information. If you can ever sort this out, I'd appreciate your letting me know.

Wish I could have been of more help.

Leslie (AZ)

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 29 Sep 2008 6:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Leslie, thanks for your reply. Yes this is confusing. I saw a copy of pages from a 'Roll' family bible I believe it was Roll,that listed Julia Elima Gwartney wife of Jacob Roll (that much I am sure of) as daughter of Elizabeth McGuffy and Micajah. However the dates seem off as Elizabeth would have been 52 when Julia was born (Julia I have also seen as Juliana Elima which could answer for the Julia Ann instead of Julia Elima). Some say Jacob's wife Julia was daughter of John and I also show Micajah's son Thomas with a Julia Ann. Just checking to see if anyone out there had a definite answer to the question. I'd rather show her as Micajah and Elizabeth's daughter and miss a generation than to have a generation and all the ancestgors of that wife added that don't necessarily belong. So for now, I guess I will leave Julia under Micajah as I have no record that she remarried anyone other than Jacob Roll. Thanks, Shelia - I have info for Jacob Roll and all their children, seven in all including William Taylor who married America Hooten of you need or want it. Shelia

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 29 Sep 2008 6:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sheila:

Yes, I'd very much like to have the information regarding the children of Julia.

As for the age of Elizabeth when Julia was born, only two years earlier in 1801 it shows she gave birth to Rebecca????

In researching ancestors during the early to mid 1800's I was also quite surprised at the number of people who could not read or write. So this also brings into question who wrote in the information into the family bible. Family, friend, descendant years later?

An example is that a friend of mine in MN has a family bible that was filled in about fifteen or twenty years after the couple had been married and had children (who were now adults) by another family member all those years later because the couple, from Ireland, was illiterate. There was nothing shameful about this, it's just the way things were in those days. Education took a back seat over earning a sparse living.

Hope you're able to resolve this someday. Do you know of any cemetery records for Micajah, Elizabeth, Julia etc?

Good hearing from you.

Leslie (AZ)

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 17 Mar 2009 10:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GWARTNEY
LESLIE, I SEEN YOU PAPER ON THE GWARTNEYS AND I AM A GWARTNEY. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS ANTHONY. MY GRANDFATHER IS JOE GWARTNEY. I HAVE A GWARTNEY BOOK, SO IF I CAN HELP YOU, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. DON

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 18 Mar 2009 1:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
HI Don:

Always a pleasure to meet another Gwartney. Id' be very interested in your exact lineage and in what state you now call "home".

Years after his death, I found that my biological father, Leonard Everett Gwartney, died in Co and is buried there. I also discovered a couple of other wives he'd accumulated before his death.

I've never seen a photo of my father or grandparents and probably never will.

What book is it that you have on the Gwartney's?

Did you also know there is a website that includes a number of the Gwartney family?

Looking forward to hearing from you again.

Leslie (AZ)



Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 18 Mar 2009 9:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GWARTNEY
HI LESLIE
I GOT THE BOOK FROM A LADY BACK IN 2000. SHE PASSED AWAY RIGHT AFTER I GOT IT FROM HER. I THINK HER LAST NAME WAS STILLWELL, BUT NOT SURE. RIGHT NOW ONE OF MY BROTHER HAS IT, BUT I CAN GET IT BACK LOOK UP ANYTHING FOR YOU.
MICAJAH WAS MY G-G-GRANDFATHER. I AM PETTY SURE. MY GRANDFATHER WAS JOSEPHY GWARTNEY AND HIS FATHER WAS ANTHONY.
I LIVE IN CHOWCHILLA,CA. WE MOVED HERE IN 1940. MY FAMILY AND GRANDFATHER AND GRANDMOTHER. MY GRANDFATHER ANTHONY IS BREDIED IN OK.

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 12:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: GWARTNEY, WELCH
Hello again:

Perhaps the woman's name was Sidwell? There is a book written by a woman with the surname of Sidwell . . . Did you buy the book from her? I've been trying to find one of these books for several years now or even have one to copy but you're the first person I know who actually HAS one of these books.

A "cousin" who lives in KS sent me a 40+ page family outline of the Gwartney's and my father, LEONARD EVERETT GWARTNEY, is included in the descendancy but it did not include any of his wives or children. I believe I'm his only child. If you wouldn't mind, could you look up my father and his parents, HENRY COLVIN GWARTNEY and NAN WELLCH? My father's date of birth was 6/17/1912 - Canada and his date of death was 12/27/1985 - CO.

I'd also like more information about the original/first Micajah.

The Gwartney family repeatedly used the same names, over and over again, so if you wouldn't mind, could you also tell me the dates that apply in relation to your Gwartney family members so I can identify them more easily.

You said you moved to CA in 1940, therefore I'm assuming you're probably somewhat in my same age group. I was born in Los Angeles, CA in 1935 and lived in that area most of my life while growing up.

I've heard the GWARTNEY name is Welsh, but have never been able to confirm this . . .

Looking forward to hearing from you again soon.

Leslie (AZ)

Re: MICAJAH GWARTNEY 1750 (VA) - 1818 (IN)

Posted: 19 Mar 2009 4:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
I would also be very interested in the Gwartney book. Do nyou have a publisher, date, and title? I am from that same line.
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