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Re: Native American Blood on the Guinn's

SandyStrunk52  (View posts) Posted: 1 Jan 2003 1:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Strunk, Guinn, Heath, Smith, Johnson, Kemp
There were a few "Bartholomew" Guinn's. Do you have a birthdate on him?
I have the Cherokee Indian Records on the Guinn's. If I remember correctly (they are packed) the Guinn family in and around Cherokee and Adair counties are related to Asa Guinn. Now, Asa married a Cherokee woman named Mary Rattling Gourd. She was a half breed.
There were several Guinn's who applied for citizenship with the Cherokee Nation. All were turned down for lack of proof except Asa and his family.
Hope this helps somewhat.

Re: Guinns in OK

fillmore462  (View posts) Posted: 5 Mar 2003 10:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Guinn
Hi Chuck,

My Uncle Fil was your father and I remember Houston when we visited and went to the Astro's Game and rode in your father's Bug.

I have emailed you at the address I found on this site and hope to here from you. I have hit a wall trying to find A. J. Guinn, our great-grandfather.

Hope to here from you soon.

Fil

Re: Guinns in OK

Fillmore G. Guinn  (View posts) Posted: 29 May 2003 9:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Guinn
Hi Chuck,

Eli A. Guinn Sr. was married to a Girtie Harp and had your Dad, Fillmore Chesley Guinn and your aunt Alma Belle Guinn.

My dad, Eli A Guinn Jr.’s mother was Effie Eilzabeth Hix and they also had a daughter Kathrine Belle Guinn.

Eli Sr.’s parents were Chester (or Chesley) Guinn and Amanda J. (unknown). I have census information with Eli Sr. 28 years old in January of 1910 which would mean that he was born in 1881, not 1880.

Chester and Amanda had 7 children, 6 boys and one girl. The information I have is from a Joan Guinn Eaton, granddaughter of Eli Sr.’s brother Richard B. The children were Eli, Frank, Tom, Ferd, Richard B., Henry and the daughter was Hattie Bell.

I also have information that Chesley Guinn’s father was Chesley Guinn and his mother was Fannie Bell and they also had a daughter named Fannie. Chesley Guinn Sr. parents are John Guinn and Jane Walker with John Guinn’s father name being Isham Guinn.

I am planning to meet with Joan in Muskogee in August to get more information and I have tried to email you with the address you left in another post, so if you read this, my email is fillmore@grandecom.net.

If anyone has any more information, please feel free to email me. I will give you anything I have as well.

Fillmore (Fil) Guinn

Re: John Harvey Guinn

weedwhckr  (View posts) Posted: 11 Oct 2003 3:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Does anyone have information regarding the Guinns in Mena, Ark who have some type of relation to the following families:

Beach
McCandless
Norris
Oglesby

I am trying to track Lou (Louvenia) Beach. She is connected by way of a sister to the Guinns I think. My uncle told me that my grandfather had an Aunt with the last name of Guinn who was a sister to his mother Luvenia Beach.

Any help is appreciated.

Re: John Harvey Guinn

Pigsmont  (View posts) Posted: 11 Oct 2003 5:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Guinn, Janes, Miller, Walters, Wilson, Rumsey, Casey, Roberts
There are six Guinn's listed in Mena, AR in the white pages on the internet at Switchboard.com. In the old days, before the internet, we would write a letter to each one and ask them if they would give us information on their family tree, or ask the specific question you asked here. It could work!

I was in Mena a number of years ago and saw a car wash called Guinn's. I don't know anything about the Guinn's there. You could also look to see if they have a website or a genealogical society for the county, I think it's Polk

Re: John Harvey Guinn

Pigsmont  (View posts) Posted: 11 Oct 2003 6:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry, I had another of those senior moments.

When I logged in to see the message it took me to, not the latest one, and I replied to one I'd already replied to before, with much the same info. Sorry about that. Ignore it.

Re: John Harvey Guinn

SandyStrunk52  (View posts) Posted: 11 Oct 2003 7:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
If you will email me privately I will send you what I can. I know this name you are asking about but just do not have the info infront of me.
I have some very good information on the Guinns in Mena. It starts about 1860 but between that and 1900 there is not a lot. Also there were 2, I think, courthouse fires so that has made it more difficult.

Sandy

CHANGE E MAIL

Virginia  (View posts) Posted: 9 Dec 2003 4:23AM GMT
Classification: Query

Re: Native American Blood on the Guinn's

essie0611  (View posts) Posted: 18 Feb 2004 3:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
My cherokee Guinn family wasn't turned down. They all have final dawes id's, cards w/ tribal #'s. I am in the process of getting mine right now through my Guinn side. William Harrison (Boss) Guinn married Mary Sally, had Hannah Minerva Guinn who had my grammy, Hannah. A lot of the Guinn women married native men and are listed under thier married names. Most of the Guinns listed on the dawes(final) were approved. Joan.

Re: Native American Blood on the Guinn's

Sandra Strunk  (View posts) Posted: 18 Feb 2004 3:44AM GMT
Classification: Query
I checked the Dawes Rolls for my line of Guinn's. Though I have been told that there were Guinn's with a Native American line I did not find mine. I have the Dawe's Rolls in book form and have personally checked, here in Oklahoma City. The only Cherokee blood I have found were through the "women" that some of the Guinn's married. I actually read everything I could get my hands on trying to prove the stories I had heard were true but thus far have not found anything to prove that the men in the family, my line anyway, had any type of Indian blood.
My Guinn's came out of Tennessee and then into Arkansas. A couple of them came to Indian Territory and were here before the rolls were taken. But they were denied when trying to prove their Indian heritage. The testimony shows that they said "they had always heard" but could not prove names of any connection with any tribe. So they were denied.
If you care to share something you find then I would surely appreciate it. I know, in my search anyway, I could have missed something.
Thanks so much for letting me know what you have found thus far.
Sandy
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