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Christopher Guice Early Family Connections

Christopher Guice Early Family Connections

Posted: 20 Mar 2012 5:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McCarty, Standley, Guice
Christopher Guice Early Family Connections

I’m going to be writing this up in several queries, due to it’s length.

For years we had thought the wife of our Jacob McCarty, born before 1749, was Catherine, the daughter of Christopher Guice. Many said she was married to an Odom, but could never find any conclusive information on them. Jacob was on many documents concerning the property of Christopher Guice, and lived on Guices Creek in Stewart Co., TN. Here is once instance that brought me to believe there was some kind of family tie:

Stewart County Deed Book 4, 1810-1813: 127 Christopher GUICE (Tennessee County, territory of the U.S. south of the Ohio River), power of attorney to Jacob McCARTY to sell 2 adjoining tracts (100a and 640a) on GUICES Creek, about 2.5 miles from Cumberland River; wit: George HEWELL, Faulkner ELLIOTT; 23 Feb 1793

So about a year ago I came across an 1880 census for Jacob’s grandson, Joseph McCarty of Hardin Co., TX, son of Joseph McCarty. It stated that his father who was born in 1782 was born in Illinois. Every record I had ever found for Joseph indicated he was from TN. I did a quick search for McCarty + Illinois Territory (it wasn’t a state then), and came up with a lawsuit involving a man by the name of John Edgar who was brought to court by the Treasury Dept concerning some land claims made in the 1780’s. In this suit, contained several power of attorneys, and a deposition by a man by the name of Abraham Standley of TN who claimed his father’s name was David Standley Sr, his brother’s were John Standley and David Standley Jr, and his brother-in-law was Jacob McCarty. We now knew that our Catherine McCarty was in fact Catherine Standley. I’ll get back to these Illinois records later.

I then did another search for McCarty +David Standley and discovered this document:

Pp. 167-170: 1 & 2 May 1765, Daniel McCarty & wife Agness of Mecklenburg,
Millwright, to George Allen of same, planter, (lease a5, release £140)…land adj.
Benj. Hardins old corner, granted to Joseph Harding 26 Mar 1755, conveyed to
John Smith 12 Nov 1757, then to McCarty….Daniel McCarty (Seal). Agness
McCarty (A) (Seal), Wit: Francis Beaty, Agness Beaty (A), David Standley (D).

Not only did I find the records of David Standley and his wife Hannah, his parents John and Catherine Standley/Stanley, but Jacob’s parents as well. But in the records of Tryon/Anson/Mecklenburg Co’s I also discovered Christopher Guice.

TRYON COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND
QUARTER SESSIONS 1769-1779
July term 1769
A Deed of Sale from Christopher Guice & Margaret his wife dated the 6th day of
December 1768 for 200 acres of land Proved by Jacob Forney Evidence thereto Ordered
to be registr'd.

TRYON COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND
QUARTER SESSIONS 1769-1779
July term 1769
A Deed of Sale from Christopher & Margaret Guice to Welrick Crowder Dated 6th day
of September 1768 for 200 acres of Land. Jacob Forney Evidence. Ordered to be
Registered.

By April 1770 I found Jacob, David Standley, and John Standley obtaining land on Uchee Creek, St. Paul’s Parish GA. Jacob’s property was adjacent to his father’s, Daniel McCarty.

More in the next query.

Sue
sueskay@gmail.com

Re: Christopher Guice Early Family Connections -Part Two

Posted: 20 Mar 2012 5:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McCarty, Standley, Guice, Odom, Routh
On January 16, 1806 David Standlee (Sr) of Logan Co, KY power of attorney to William Standlee to sell 600 acres on Sandy Creek of the Ome Cheete formerly called the Natchez District.

Wow, we had never found an indication they had been in Natchez. A few days later I found another researcher of a Zaccheus Routh, who was another neighbor of the Standley’s in NC, had settled in Natchez, and his son married the widow of Benjamin Stanley. She had wondered if these were the same Standley/Stanleys she had seen with her Rouths in NC.

Now here’s the shocking part, all this led me to a document that was in the National Genealogical Societies publication on the “Natchez Loyal Volunteers of 1781”. This record came from an English officer who had made claims to the British government for his service during the American Revolution. In these records contained the roster of the men who served under him. You also have to understand, that most of the records of that time period for Natchez are still being held by the British, French and Spanish Archives, not in our American archives. So they are still there waiting to be discovered by some very rich resourceful person. Here is a link to this document I have placed in my dropbox: http://db.tt/0ti1lQQG

Amongst the volunteers listed were: Jacob McCarty, Benjamin, John and Joseph Stanley (sons of David Stanley/Standley Sr) Michael Guise, Nathaniel Guist, David Guize, two Harman men, three Odom men (Catherine Guice was married to an Odom), and four sons of Zaccheus Routh.

THAT’S RIGHT FOLKS! OUR RELATIVES WERE BRITISH LOYALISTS!

If you read the history of the battle of Ft. Panmure, you’ll find these volunteers fled to one of three places after they were defeated by the American forces. New Orleans, East Tennessee (probably the Watauga Settlement) and Kaskaskia Illinois……that’s right Illinois!

There’s a great online source called the American State Papers that contain many of these early records prior to us becoming the nation we are today. Remember that law suit I mentioned in Illinois I found our Jacob McCarty in? Well these records are on this website. Two of the Standleys, Abraham and Joseph were granted land, and the rest of them, including Jacob McCarty were rejected. At this time the Illinois Territory was still held by the French, and they were being forced to open it up to Settlers, however they really didn’t want them there. What better way to split up families and discourage them from settling there, then to grant some land, and reject others. This is exactly what they did. Here is a link to the one that was granted to David Guise, that’s right he went to Illinois with them: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsp&fileNam...

After the war was over, the American Government allowed most of these British Loyalists to return to Natchez and reclaim their land. Here’s two more links to Guice documents: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?hlaw:2:./temp/~ammem_i...:: and http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?hlaw:3:./temp/~ammem_i...::

Hope this helps someone!

Sue
sueskay@gmail.com
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