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Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 5 Nov 2009 4:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grubb, Nelthorpe
My Great Great Grandparents Charles Grubb b 1815 in Suffolk and Jane Grubb born 1816 in Gosfield Essex had 7 children one of which was my Great grandfather, Saumuel Grubb b 1853 in Wethersfield Essex and married Ellen Nelthorpe (b1861 Wattersfield Suffolk) who had two children Edith (b 1882) and Kate (my grandmother born 1888) If anyone has any information or would like any information please get in touch. My mother, Ellen and Samuel's Grand-daughter is still alive aged 90 and remembers loads.

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 4 Jan 2012 4:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grubb, Nelthorpe
Charles Grubb of Wethersfield was my gt gt gt grandfather (assuming it's the same one). One of his daughters was Harriet, who married Edward Nelthorpe (from Wattisfield) - in the 1890s, I think. I always understood that they met when both were working at a coalmine in Yorkshire, and that he died of TB three years later.

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 9 Jan 2012 8:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grubb/Nelthorpe Family
This information sounds right to me, dont know about the TB though but I will find out from my Mum. Harriet was my Great grandfather's sister and the Edward Nelthorpe she married was my Gt gradfather's brother in law. My Great Grandmother was Ellen Nelthorpe of Wattisfield in Suffolk and Harriet married Edward after her first husband died and Harriet and Edward later moved down south somewhere. I have the builders in at the moment to my records are packed away, however, I will get them out and let you have any more information I have. My Mum is 92 and she remembers all her Grandfather's brothers and her Aunt Tet, as they called her.

Kind regards

Lorraine Booth

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 10 Jan 2012 1:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Lorraine

I'm glad it mostly tallies with what you know. Most of my information comes from conversations with my late grandmother, and is a bit sketchy (especially on dates). It'd be great to hear more details when you're able to access them. Harriet ended up in Margaretting, Essex - though that may have been only after Edward died. I still have what I believe is their wedding-ring. I also have a photo of an old man understood to be Charles Grubb (or possibly his brother William!).

With best wishes

Russell Thompson

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 12 Jan 2012 8:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Russell,

My Mum would know if the picture was Charles or his son William as she remembers her Uncle Billy. I spoke to my Mum and she said that Harriet went to Margretting and I believe she may have visited there with her mother as a child. Sadly we dont have many photos as my Grandmother destroyed quite a lot of them when she had dementia before she died in 1975. My Mum says that she was told by her Mother who would have been Harriet's niece that Harriet and Jessica? her daughter came to live in Yorkshire after William Rogers, Harriet's first husband died and her brother, my Great Grandfather Samuel Grubb had been widowed and my Grandma would have been two. Harriet came to look after Samuel and his two daughters Edith and Kate (my Grandmother) Ellen Samuel's deceased wife was Edward Nelthorpe's sister and it is thought he came to find work. He will have worked at Allerton-by-Water colliery in Yorkshire and they lived in a village called Bowers Allerton, later known as Bowers Row. My mum doesnt know much about what happened to Harriet and her dauthger she thinks as time went on and my Great Grandfather died they may have lost touch as my Grandmother and her 3 daughters had to come and live in Leeds in the early 1930's.

I have quite a bit of information about the Grubb Family and limited information about the Nelthorpe Family. My Mum remembers a lot it's just piecing it all together as at 92 sometimes she gets a bit mixed up but mostly what she has told me has turned out to be true.

Kind regards

Lorraine Booth

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 22 Jan 2012 1:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Lorraine

This is very interesting indeed: we knew the story about Harriet going up the the mining village to housekeep for her recently-widowed brother, but we hadn't even known the brother's name, nor that there had already been that connection with the Nelthorpe family. Harriet's daughter Jessie was with her, and it's Jessie that we're descended from. She became village schoolmistress at Margaretting.

It'd be great if we could send a copy of the ?Charles Grubb photo for your mum's opinion. We also have about four or five other unidentified photos (Grubbs? Nelthorpes?)that you may be able to help with. They are nineteenth century photos, so it's a long shot. Could we perhaps contact you by email, and send them as scans?

As I say, we really know very little about our Grubb ancestors, so it'd be marvellous to hear any other information that you have. One question: are you connected to the Bruces, or was that another branch of the family?

With best wishes

Russell Thompson

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 6:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Russell,

This gets more interesting by the minute. My Mum was under the impression one of her Grandfather's sisters was a teacher in Margretting but this was obviously Jessie! Just out of interest did Jessie by any chance teach sewing? We would be delighted to have a look at your photos Mum may know who they are and it would be nice to put a few faces to some names. My e-mail address is lorraine.booth3@ntlworld.com

Our Great-Great Grandparents had seven children:-

Sarah (b. 1840), Emma (b.1843), William (b.1844/45) Joseph (b.1847) Anne (b. 1850) Samuel (my G-Great Grandfather b.1853), and Harriet (b?)

I will type up the information I have and let you have a copy. Anne was murdered by her husband and my cousin even found a newspaper article on the web confirming this was the case. Joseph lived to be over 90 and died in 1933 and Mum remembers visiting him and his wife Eliza they lived at Barking Side in Essex.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards

Lorraine

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 23 Jan 2012 6:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
PS. Forgot to add to my e-mail that Mum said we had a relation called Alec Victor Bruce. My Grandmother, had a sister called Edith Ellen Nelthorpe Grubb (Ellen Nelthorpe being her Mother who died age 29 with comsunption) Edith was b. in 1882 in Wattisfield Suffolk(out of wedlock) she later took our Great Grandfather's surname). Edith married Victor Ernest Bruce in 1906 in Chelmsford Essex. Victor Ernest Bruce I understand died in the First World War in the Dardanelles (not sure if he in army or Navy) according to Mum. Alec Victor Bruce was their son nd he was born (Jan-March 1912) in Guildford Surrey. Mum said that she thinks Alec went into the Army or the Navy as well. Edith died in 1915 and after that it appears the family lost touch with Alec.

Hope this helps.

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 29 Jan 2012 3:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Lorraine

As you say, this gets more and more interesting. My Dad has a document into which he's inserted various photos (of people both known and unknown), and I'll ask him to forward that to you. As I say, the facts we know are fairly scanty, compared to your own research, but some of the photos may well ring bells.

Off the top of my head, I think Harriet was born in 1856. Thanks for the list of her siblings - even those details are largely new to us. We had no idea there'd been a murder in the family.

Jessie's duties may well have included sewing - my understanding is that, as village schoolmistress, she probably taught a bit of everything. We know that her mum (Harriet) was a skilled straw-plaiter, so handicraft was in the blood, certainly.

Also, thanks for throwing light on the Bruce connection. There were some Bruces that my late grandmother regarded as her cousins, and we knew that their father had died in the Dardanelles, and that they had a brother who had joined the navy, thereafter losing touch with them - so, yes, that tallies. Again, though, the precise names are new details for us.

Email to follow. With best wishes

Russell

Re: Grubb/ Nelthorpe Family Suffolk Essex & Yorkshire

Posted: 30 Jan 2012 4:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Russell,

I am glad my information is proving correct and useful! Mainly it's all down to my Mum's fantastic memory, and the tales my Grandma told her which are all seeming to be proved right as time goes on. I have now typed up my notes on the Grubb and Nelthorpe familes. I had scraps of paper with bits of information all over but have now put them into some sort of order and if you would like me to e-mail them to you I would be only too pleased to do so.

Kind regards

Lorraine
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