Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
Was he any relations to the Peter Grub that lived near Durham in Bucks County, PA. My line is buried at the Durham Evangelical Church at Durham.
Sherry
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Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
Sherry, my problem is that I have no idea who Andrew Grub's parenats were. He was supposedly born about 1732. My ancestor,Jacob Grub, was born about 1735. I don't know who his parents were either. I am guessing that Andrew and Jacob were either brothers or cousings. since they appaarenatly wenet to the same church , were married in the same church, and had children baptized in the ssame church. It was the Tohickon German Reformed Church of Bucks County.
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Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
How close is that church to the one at Durham? Also, what was the name of the township where he lived in Bucks County? My Peter owned land in Springfield Twp, Bucks Co, PA. I was reading through some emails from a Kathy Grube in Hellertown in 2000, she may have some more information on the Grube Families in that area. Bonnie Serben has done a great deal of research on the Grube's in that area.
Sherry
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Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
Sherry, I don't know the name of the township but the church is now St. Peters United Church of Christ, formerly the Tohickon German Reformed Church. Neither Andrew nor Jacob spellead their names with the "e". The Jacob line added "bs" when they moved to Allegheny County in the 1780s.DNA tests would help to determine whether the Grub and the Grube lines were both descended from Caspar Grub of Kusel, Germany.Members of the Grub line have had the test.
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Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
I will try to find a male Grube from our line to do the DNA. I have had several of the males in my Webb's line DNA done only to find we did not match the line I thought we would, but again that was great because it then put me on the right track. It may take awhile to find a male of this Grube line, but I will start working on it. There is a direct male descendant of my great-grandfather's brother, who still lives in the area who might do this for me. Do you have a project going for the Grub line? I also want to find a direct descendant of the documented line of Johannes Peter Grub of Northampton Co, PA who came to America and died about 1802 to make sure our line match. You can email me direct at sherrysj@mchsi.com. Sherry Jones
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Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
I am a direct descendent of Johannes Peter Grub of Williams Township, Northampton County, PA. I have a couple of sons and I'm sure I can talk one of them into a DNA test. As a matter of fact, my oldest son had a DNA test for a different reason. It's possible that test would suffice. If someone can let me know how to proceed, I'll check with the boys and see what we can do. Bonnie Grube Serben bonniesdfw@comcast.net
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Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
My husband and sons are also direct descendants of Johannes Peter Grube of Northampton. How do we proceed for DNA testing, and to what do they compare?
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Re: Andrew Grub of Bucks County
Sherry, I would like to email you but I didn't get yor address right. Please send me a not in which you type out the email address. David H.
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Hello, My mother is a Grubbs and descends from James S. Grubbs and Violet Trimble. He was a farmer in McCandless/Hampton/Indiana Twps, son of John Grubbs and Isabella Reed; John Grubb was son of Andrew Grubb and Rhoda (Powell?) who are buried in Pine Creek Presbyterian Church cemetery in Fox Chapel (not to be confused with Pine Creek Cemetery where Samuel H. Grubbs, one of John's sons, is buried). This Andrew died July 1851. I am 99% certain about all that. But there is a lot of mystery surrounding the origins of Andrew Grubb. Multiple published local histories say he was an immigrant from Germany. There is a source that puts him in Indiana Township involved in the Pine Creek Presb Church in the early 19C (where he and his wife Rhoda were eventually buried); there is also a document from 1800, a petition from an Andw Grubs and a Philip Grubbs for a better road in Pine Twp. He may have owned land and farmed in the Hampton/McCandless area in the early 19C, acc. to published histories and deeds (which I need to research further!). Several of Andrew's children married into the Hodil family, also from Germany. There is a problematic 1850 census document which seems to record him. His recorded age accords perfectly with his gravestone the next year, as does his location (Indiana Twp). The next record in that census is for a James and Susanna Grubbs and their 2 children, and this also accords well with gravestones near his in the same cemetery. (This James would be my James S. Grubbs' uncle.) There are two problems though. One is his wife is listed as Rose (could be a nickname for Rhoda or just a mistake by the census taker). The other more serious problem is that his place of birth is Pa. Again, could be a mistake, but the census taker was careful to record birthplaces in Germany for many of the people listed on the same sheet. Clearly he was in a German area. If the census document had listed Germany as his place of birth, that would be the end of the story. But I do think I have to take seriously the idea that he might descend from Grubbs in eastern PA. I've seen the marriage record for Jacob Grub and Elizabeth Koch in Bucks Co, and baptismal records for them and for an Andrew and Maria Grub in the same time period. I found a Conrad Grubb who got a land grant in McCandless in 1819, perhaps this Conrad or his son/nephew? There is also a document in Westmoreland Co. that lists baptisms of various Grubs of Allegheny Co. One of of Conrad's children was an Andrew born 1793; he can be tracked in the census and elsewhere and died in 1877. So not my Andrew. But there is another Andrew Grub there who is married to an Elizabeth and who has a daughter Elizabeth in Oct 1794, then he disappears. There is also a Philip Grub, also married to an Elizabeth, who appears in 1792-94 then disappears. Are these the Andrew and Philip Grub(b) who pop up in the Pine Creek petition in 1800? Could this be my Andrew? It's possible that this is my Andrew and that he still came directly from Germany. He may be distant kin to Conrad Grub and his father Jacob Grub, or he might have even been close kin but immigrated after they did. If it is my Andrew then he would have had to remarry Rhoda. Just wondering if you have any additional thoughts or new findings. Thanks, Kirk
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