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French Goocher's from Canada

French Goocher's from Canada

Posted: 7 Aug 2007 8:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Lagasse/Lagace, Mignier dit Lagace, Desroches
My g-uncle by marriage, Alexis GOOCHER, married my grandpa's oldest sister, Josephine LAGASSE. They lived in several places--in Westbrough and Marlborough, Mass. When we visited Marlborough this summer, their last name was recognized immediately and pronounced the French way--
Goo-shay. Just wanted youall to know that there is another way to say that name and you will find it in the New England states where the French GOOCHER settled.

This couple was married in Westbrough on 12 Nov. 1890. She is the daughter of Mizael LAGASSE and Emma LAFAILLE. She was born 23 Oct 1871 in Westborough, Mass. and died at their home on 1 Allen Court in Marlborough, Middlesex Co. MA on 10 May 1935. Alexis N. GOOCHER was born in Oct. 1870 in Westborough, Mass. to Julius Goocher (the original name might have been Gothier) and Mary SUMPTER.

I don't have an accurate date of death for him or where he died. They are supposed to be buried im St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery in Marlborough and they ARE listed as having a care plan and a headstone in the cemetery records. When we went to look where the records said they were buried, some other couple with a different last name is buried in that plot. We looked all over the older section of that cemetery and couldn't find a headstone with their names.

Their children were:

1. Mary J. b. 1891 in Westborough, MA (or spelled Westboro)

2. Louis b. in Oct 1893 in Westborough (or Westboro)

3. Emma

4. Norman

5. Laura

6. Alice

I don't know anything more about them and their children, but I sure would appreciate hearing from their descendants or anyone who knows some dates that have eluded us so far.

Census records tell us that Alexis (he is also mentioned as Alexander in one census) occupation is a "boot Laster" for a shoemaking company so he must have carved lasts for boots.

If any of this info sounds familar to you, please post back to me.

Thank you in advance,

Nanette Lagasse Gaither

Re: French Goocher's from Canada

Posted: 5 Nov 2007 3:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Nan,
we visited once a number of years ago about family connections regarding Emma LaFaille and her younger sister Virginie Plante, (my great grandmother)
I had earlier thought that the two were half sisters with different fathers, but everything I seem to find on Sophie's marriage to Zephirin Pierre Plante and Virginie's birth seems to lead to Francois LaFaille being the true father. Virginie was born almost 2 months before Sophie married Zephirin.
The only info that might change this would be if Francois died nine months or more prior to Virginie's birth on 15 Sept 1851
I don't suppose you have ever come across the death date, or cause of death, or location and burial for Francois have you?

I haven't been doing much with genealogy for the past few years, but an inquery from another cousin got the old genealogy bug going again. Hope you can help.
Thanks
Duane Roy

Re: French Goocher's from Canada

Posted: 10 Nov 2007 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Lagasse, Lagace, Mignier dit Lagace, Desroches, Lafaille, LaPlante/Plante/Plant ,etc.
Duane!!

Hi cousin,

I'm so happy that you saw the note. I was hoping that you would and we could connect again. It has been so long between now and our last conversation and I thought that maybe I wouldn't find you again.

I re-read through some of our conversation a few weeks ago to refresh my memory about where I was on my Lagasse research when I put it down. I, too, put my research aside several years ago and when I came back to it this year, I concentrated on my husband's families and my mom's families. Then this summer, Gordon and I attended the Lagasse/Lagace family reunion in Madawaska, Maine. Between Jan. and the reunion in late June, I went over all of the info I have on the families to get prepared. I didn't meet any Lagasse's on my direct family line, but we had a great time getting to know many of the family anyway and see where the Lafaille/Plante/Granger families had lived prior to being kicked out of Acadia. The whole area of Acadia that we were able to get to was beautiful.

The exciting part of our trip was being able to go to Westborough, Mass. to the cemetery where Zephirin and Sophie Granger Lafaille Plante are buried. I took lots and lots of pictures of those two graves. It was so amazing how we found them there! I was so happy to be there! Have you been there yet? If you haven't, I would be happy to share with you.

Hummmm, I have 15 Sep 1852 for Virginia's or Virginie's birth. Do you have some kind of proof of birth that I don't have?

I will have to look in my research to see if I have anything more on Francois that we didn't have before. I don't have everything in my notebook yet that I've run across in the last few years. He continues to be a mystery, doesn't he? I keep telling myself that we will find more about him. Another mystery still is the location of Emma Lafaille' grave in Maryville, ND. I don't know if we will ever find out what happened to her after she died.

Do you have definitive birthdates on Harry, Joseph and Matilda Plant? I just have ca. dates for their births and only Virginia's death date and where she is buried.

I have more info about their families since we corresponded before. If you would like to, how about talking off of the board soon and catching up?

My email address is Nangotoo@san.rr.com.

Nan

Re: French Goocher's from Canada

Posted: 8 Feb 2008 12:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brown, Goocher, Brashear, Crawford, Hale, Messer, Colbert, Stephens
Saw your request, is this the family you are looking at:

U.S. Census > 1900 United States Federal Census > Massachusetts > Worcester > Westborough > District 1703: Ancestry page: 11: Location: 33-114 Brighorn Street.

Goocher, Alexis Head W M Oct 1870 29 M 10 Mass French Canada French Canada Caster Boots 2 __ Yes Yes Yes R __ N __
Goocher, Josephine Wife W F Oct 1871 M 10 2 2 Mass Fr CN Fr CN
Goocher, Mary J daughter W F Mar 1891 9 S Mass Mass Mass
Goocher, Slovic son W M Oct 1893 6 S Mass Mass Mass

Re: French Goocher's from Canada

Posted: 15 Aug 2008 10:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hey Nanette and Duane--

I see that you both have Granger-Lafaille connections :-)
What I have is a bit earlier than yours.....
I have Pierre Granger m. Francoise Lafaille. Francoise was born in 1789, in St Jean, L'Acadie. A daughter, Zoe, was born in 1818. Zoe m. Joseph Frechette in Marieville, Rouville, Q.
These families ended up in Vermont, Chittenden County.

Can either of you give me details about "being kicked out of Acadia?" This is the first Acadian family that I have run across, and I'm not familiar with the event.

If I have information that you need, I'll be glad to share.

Thanks!

Lauri Parizo Carlson

Re: French Goocher's from Canada

Posted: 14 Feb 2011 8:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Nanette,

This family went under two names, Goocher and Coutu.
The original name is Coutu. Alexis' father Julius obviously didn't know how to read or write. His first marriage can be found under Julius Couture and his second marriage to Mary Summeter can be found under Jilly Ongy. How he got the name Ongy is beyond me, but three children were born under Ongy and they somehow changed the name to Goocher.

I don't have a death date for Alexis, but his father died in 1898 in Westboro.

My guess is, that the name on the headstone in St. Mary's cemetery was probably Coutu and you just didn't realize that it was Alexis and Josephine that you were looking for.

Re: French Goocher's from Canada and "Jilly Ongy"

Posted: 13 Apr 2015 8:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wagner, Goocher, Couture, Ongy, Onge, St. Onge, Sumpter, Summater
Your messages are 3-4 years old but thank goodness I found them. I am researching a WAGNER family out of Quebec who moved to Grafton, Massachusetts prior to 1850. I have a LUCY WAGNER who was married to a "Jilly Ongy" and dang, I have not been able to find him again anywhere past the birth of a child in 1860 with second wife Mary Summater.

Now I know why. "Jilly" was Julius Couture and then later went by name Goocher which is an "anglesized" way of saying and spelling the correct surname "Couture" I guess. If anyone wants the file I am working on, please let me know. I recently posted a lengthy message about this Wagner family and will add some more to that message today. Jilly Ongy's first wife Lucy Wagner died in 1856 and so did their only child and firstborn son Alexis (named after Jilly's father).

I have a family Gareau-St. Onge from Quebec to Vermont, wonder if they are related. I thought "Jilly" may have been a St. Onge.

THX from Nora

Re: French Goocher's from Canada and "Jilly Ongy"

Posted: 13 Apr 2015 9:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,

I have her as Lucy Warner, not Wagner.
As for Jilly, he was born Julius Coutu on 11 Jan 1831 Berthierville, Quebec
His first marriage had him as a Couture, how he changed the name to Ongy after that, then to Goocher is beyond me.

Re: French Goocher's from Canada and "Jilly Ongy"

Posted: 14 Apr 2015 1:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wagner, Goocher, Couture, Ongy, Onge, St. Onge, Sumpter, Summater
She is definitely Lucy WAGNER- the records for her have been transcribed incorrectly and I posted a correction today at Ancestry. Lucy Wagner was born and baptized Luce Wagner on July 17, 1835 at Yamaska, Quebec. She married "Jilly" on April 22, 1854 in Worcester, Mass. Their only child Alexis was born on March 7, 1856 at Grafton, Mass. He died April 7, 1856 at age one month. Lucy died April 28, 1856. Her husband Julius/Jilly re-married to Mary Summater/Sumpter on July 10, 1857, the same day her brother Paul Summater married Victoria Lowery (?), both marriages in Worcester County, Mass.

Lucy's parents were Jean Baptiste Wagner and Marie Senneville, who had eight children that I know of at Yamaska and one daughter at St. Pie, Bagot. Six of those nine children died young. A son Solomon Wagner died in Sept. 1849 also at Grafton, Massachusetts.The father Jean Baptiste Wagner died January 7, 1852 at Grafton, Mass. I have not yet found a death record for the mother Marie or Mary- I have a hunch she may have travelled to Vermont to live with a surviving son.

I am working on this extended Wagner line and other Wagner families who were in Franklin County, Vermont. I am most grateful for the information that was posted here that helped me to find the marriage record in online Massachusetts records for Lucy Wagner and Jilly/Julius. The surname Ongy had me stumped as did his given name "Jilly"- at first I was guessing it may have been Gilles.

Do you know the name of Julius' mother? His death record says his father was Alexander, mother was listed there as "Ange Hall" but in other records she was recorded as Margaret.

Thx from Nora

Re: French Goocher's from Canada and "Jilly Ongy"

Posted: 14 Apr 2015 1:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
His parents are Alexis Coutu and Angelique Houle.
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